How is fury doing PVE wise in 8.3? I am seeing some Arms too, how are they doing? Im trying to decide which spec to roll with.
TIA
ATM both specs are doing fine on ST though neither will perform well without having specific gear/essences. Arms requires a LOT of haste and 3 Test Of MIght stacks to be very powerful. Fury wants a LOT of crit with 3 Cold Steel Hot Blood traits. The ne gear from raid for the most part has these on every piece for both specs but that along with proper weapons and good corruption is just a pain at times.
Method ranked warriors the number 2 dps melee class in 8.3, just behind demon hunters.
DH’s are S tier in every bit of content.
Nerf them now!!!
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Not that I’m the best but both specs are doing great. I personally just find fury more fun to play. It’s a lot of gear and essence based though
As has been stated DPS warriors are in a fantastic position right now for raiding. Fury is very good in most fights in the new raid, and amazing on a couple. Arms is in a similar position. To be in the best possible position you’d need to play both specs. I don’t like Arms personally and won’t be doing that myself, but feel compelled to mention it.
In M+ dungeons Fury is very strong but we’re eclipsed by DHs, Rogues, and Mages. If you can partner up with non-warrior tanks, particularly monks, you’ll do well.
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Fury is better than everything.
Cuz warriors.
Ps Aédan, pls stop doing M+. I was ahead of you for like 1 day and catching you is getting rough D:
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This is my belief as well, because obviously, but I figured I’d let the OP know what the false public opinion was 
Never! I’d be further but I had to run KR literally 15 times to get my geti last week.
I’m in love with the new affix, I can’t stop.
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Not worth stacking cold steel, it doesn’t generate more rage. Just check icy veins.
Keep in mind that having a second or third rank of the trait active in your gear does not increase the amount of Rage generated.
The dmg however is nutters.
Stack 3
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Hahahaha I know right it’s amazing; I did the same thing with KR. Settled for a 460 for now -.-.
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You are both correct and horribly, terribly wrong.
No, the rage benefit doesn’t stack. What even is it anyway? I completely forget about it. You stack CSHB for the bleed. The bleed is incredible. The bleed is why this tier CSHB is on every single piece of gear in the new raid.
That bleed is like 14-15% of my dps in M+. Please don’t go giving out bad advice.
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I will continue to play arms and continue to clear top end content.
Down with all your fury mains.
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Yes it’s good to have 1 cold steel with on a piece gear. But no where does it say stacking it increases the chance to apply the debuff. Unless I’m missing something or the tooltip is wrong? Something is wrong, because I simmed myself with stacking 2 cold steels And my damage increased by 1k? But the debuff applied just as much as with 1 cold steel, no where in the cold steel tooltip does it say it increases damage or the chance to apply the debuff. What am I missing here?
It’s better to have 2 pieces, and best with 3. Normally the guidance is ‘sim your traits’, but particularly with multi-target fights and M+, I feel confident saying ‘get 3xCSHB’.
It doesn’t. Crit increases the chance to apply the dot. One, two, or three CSHBs and your chance to apply Gushing Wound will always be your crit chance. But the total amount of dot is cumulative. My gear’s CSHB all come from different ilvl gear, with my helmet’s dot being 10,299; shoulders are 10,782; and chest is 8,160. Anytime my bloodthirst crits something, it applies an additional 29,241 damage over 6 seconds.
You can go into the very guide you reference https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pve-dps-azerite-traits-powers-and-armor and scroll down to where the sim comparisons between the different azerite traits are. You’ll notice that the first CSHB is worth the most dps increase, because it gives rage and a dot, but the second and third still have immense value. Your own sim demonstrates the benefit.
This isn’t new man, I don’t know what else to tell you. Go over to Skyhold and ask Archi yourself if you still doubt it. Test it on a target dummy yourself.
Always sim yourself, but in most cases, triple CSHB is generally the play for Fury warriors. You can ignore me completely if you want, but if you sim yourself right, it’s just going to tell you to do it, and you’ll be wearing it anyway.
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As a general rule of thumb numerical values stack but percentages do not.
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Yeah I had someone in game tell explain to me same thing. My main is a hunter and for traits that have a % you most likely want to stack like dance of death,and one that does flat damage not so much as a hunter. It seems it’s different for warriors, I just wish the tooltip was clearer, because it doesn’t say stacking increases the chance to reapply or increase damage. Whereas for hunters it’s expanatory. But thanks for the advise.
No that rule still applies. For dance of death it is the agility boost that stacks not the percent chance to trigger it. This rule applies regardless of class. Sounds like you were getting info from someone that knew which trait to pick but they had no idea/were mistaken about why.
3xCBHS also increases your healing, and If your anything like me I play fury with a maximum healing build
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DH’s can suck a fart with their chad gameplay