Stat squish / level nerf?

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Blizz, I understand we are seeing a stat squish in Midnight, pretty big one it seems. Are we also going back to level 60?.. 50? whatever?

Of note, I’m in complete support of a squish. Classic numbers are the best… BC on the high end.

But I ask… for the level of god, could you build it into the story. Make it mean something.

the last squish was annoying for that sole reason.

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i think any number bigger than 12 should be removed from the game. it’s just ridiculous to have bigger numbers. everyone agrees with me

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Level cap is 90 in midnight. Last titan will probably be 100 and then they’ll level squish it again.

People who complain about squishes are ridiculous. It’s the same power, just smaller numbers and easier to read/manage.

Fun fact, in epic bgs right now I often go down to 0 healing, because once you reach 4 billion healing the meters reset back to 0 because they’re not designed to go that high.

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Not much lower you can go.

Vanilla 20
Tbc 25
Wrath 30
Cata 35
Mop 40
Wod 45
Legion 50
Bfa 55
Shadow 60
Dragon 65
War 70
Midnight 75
Last Tit 80

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I like the idea of an ilvl squish but i would like the ilvl jumps between tiers to be lowered too otherwise we have the same problem. They could always nerf trinkets and other special effect items at the start of a new season instead of nerfing it with greater ilvl items.

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I’ve been saying for a while each expansion should just reset the level.

  • Leveling from 1-10 each new expac. You can either level in the new content or you can level up in one of the older expansions and then jump straight to the new stuff afterwards. But since most things are tied to the campaign, at least if it’s level 1 to 10 and you can start it when it launches, regardless of whether or not it’s a new character or an old character, you can get the campaign done sooner.
  • Stats should go to 30/33/36/39 for Explorer/Veteran/Hero/Mythic. Drop the other two types of gear and then raise everything by three points in season two and another three points in season three. 33/36/39/42 and 36/39/42/45. And then everything resets back to the original numbers when the levels squish again at the start of the new expansion.

Ultimately, this would make balancing gear and class is a lot easier, knowing that the base numbers are never going to change and they won’t ever have to do a huge squish again in the future because they do a small squish at the end of every expansion. People are gonna hate this idea and honestly, I don’t care. I’m using common sense and logic to try to create future scalable balancing.

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hmm… we did go from 120 to 60 in a xpac. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: LMAO!

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I have to admit that stung a little.

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While this tends to be true for current content, the main concern I have is that historically this hasn’t been true for legacy content, which led to difficulty increases when running instances below level cap.

Provided they don’t mess that up again, I have no issue with it, but it is a valid criticism of how they’ve handled this previously.

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this is true. it’s also true that people who complain about “big numbers” are ridiculous for the same reason.

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Old raids unsoloable for an expansion part 3

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Why

I dont like these squishes overall, the first 60 squish gave us shadowlands which had a very degenerate damage distribution. Plus with each squish blizzard has ruined old content soloing. I am gonna assume SL and bfa soloing will be nogh impossible in midnight

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“but they can adjust the scaling so nothing changes!!”

right, they can, but they won’t, at least not right away. it might be six months into the patch.

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My issue isn’t with the numbers themselves, it’s that after every single squish, legacy content has been objectively harder. Taking 1-2 minutes to do, if at all, what I could do in 10 seconds prior to the patch, kills any sort of character power progression that I feel.

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At this moment mythic raszageth has 400m hp

I bet for sure when we squish, raszageth health stays the same and we only hit for 10k

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100% we’ve seen this before.
Patch 9.0 new talent trees and old world soloing became just harder

I am trying to remember the other squishes like the first one with wod, then bfa I think?

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That should definitely be fixed, and yes, it is frustrating.

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I wouldn’t mind squishes if I could do legacy content 1:1 how I could before the squish, but every single squish has shown that Blizzard doesn’t know how to do that. I really don’t like waiting 1-2 years just to be able to do something again.

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No we are not.

No thanks.