I see a lot of haste>mastery>everything else but I’ve also seen that once you get haste to 20%, mastery overtakes haste. Can anyone confirm this for me?
I believe Haste diminishing after 20% may be talk about Arms, or possibly BfA era Fury. AFAIK there’s no such rule for SL Fury. But as always, the best practice is to sim yourself. Rather than rely on stat targets, just throw all your best gear into the Raidbots Top Gear and see what it advises.
It was based on the shadowlands fury guide by Method. Just tested by swapping some pieces with more mastery and less haste and my dps simmed higher.
Gear combinations are a complex equation. Very often it’s not “Haste past X% loses value” but “The interaction of Haste and Mastery means (completely made up numbers) there’s a sweet spot where a 2:1 ratio gets the maximum return and values in either direction lose a small amount of value”. Plus, unless everything’s the same ilvl, you have to remember that Strength is a pretty valuable stat.
That’s why the advised practice is not to sim specific gear sets but to throw everything into the Top Gear sim and let it math out the dozen or two permutations of gear combinations and tell you which is the best. If you want to be really thorough, you’ll do it more than once on multiple fight styles. Plugging in specific sets is too narrow a data set.
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I was testing it with just jewelry around the same ilvl so no strength to worry about. Just more or less haste and mastery.
Sim to be sure, but that’s most likely false. I’m sitting at 25% haste and 29% mastery, and haste still outweighs mastery by 10%.
I’m fairly sure that hasn’t been updated since beta.
Oh yeah, good catch. Didn’t Method, like, dissolve in a burst of epic drama and misconduct? It’s no surprise their stuff is a bit out of date. The guides at WoWhead and Icy Veins will be a lot more current.
Sim your gear over everything. It will never let you down.
That said, you’re thinking of Arms, where haste is arguably tied for best stat until 20% where it suddenly bottoms out in value. Fury has no such soft cap. More haste is better than less, period. I am generally finding that the value of haste compared to other stats is increasing with gear, not decreasing.
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