They brought back stances, they brought back Shield Charge from Glad Stance!!! We are almost there 
The last talent under Shield Charge which is Champion’s Bulwark should be made into Glad Stance. Shield Charge was a signature Glad stance ability just make the last talent in that row Glad stance.
Also in that row above Into the fray is out of place and should be switched with Punish on the other side. Since we are trying to improve Shield Slam damage. It feels weird I have to go over to the Ravanger side.
We are soooo close, Dew it Blizzard!!! We are so close to the Sword and Board Dps fantasy again!!!
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Yeah, it seems weird that Into The Frey isn’t on the “aoe” side where Ravager is. I agree with swapping Into The Frey and Punish, that way we can have both Punish and Juggernaut. They really should have Champions Bulwark just turn prot into dps spec.
For PvP this is what I came up with for random BG’s, though I’m considering swapping in Shockwave and Bounding Stride instead of Berserker Stance and Siphoning Strikes.
For PvE I’d grab Massacre, Seismic Reverberation, and Sudden Death instead of Berserker Stance, Siphoning Strikes, and Enduring Defense.
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Glad Stance Blizz!!! Get on it!
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Glad stance return!! PLEASE!
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Heres the thing.
With stances back, shield charge, and keeping the tier set bonus from SotFO you basically have glad stance function. Thr only thing id like to see added is puttint condemn in thr base tree on thr same node as spear of bastion.
You could then offtank in battle/zerker stance and pump dps with condemn, blood and thunder, avatar, shield chage, ect…switch stance to defense, taunt and tank per usual.
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Well basically is the problem. First we have Threat issues without Glad stance. Next we don’t have any Dps bonus or Mastery bonus to synergize damage.
What made Glad stance eventually pump was Bonus Armor and how it scaled with our Mastery. If we aren’t getting massive Mastery or have some bonus we just aren’t there because we need massive attack power.
Finally and most importantly in PvP Tanks take 50% extra damage (needs to be removed) Glad stance is a Dps spec. If we don’t have Glad Stance we just can’t pull the build off in PvP. Which is a huge bummer. We can’t switch out of D stance otherwise we get deleted.
I’d love to make Glad Stance PvP videos and guides again. That won’t happen though unless we get a True Glad Stance that makes us a Dps. So the final Talent of Glad Stance needs to REPLACE Defensive stance. Which would fix other worries that Blizzard had on is it a Tank confusion.
All I want to do is massive damage with a Shield just give us Dps Shield Specs for Prot please and thanks.
Wish they would get rid of Spear completely. Really hate jarring CC that snaps you back. However yes Condemn would be a great option since Glad stance was mostly about single target pressure.
Condemn for me was great as prot. Id have huge snap threat pulling off 30k condemns at fight start. Avatar would stay up for like 2 minutes straight due to double legendary, and 4 piece wouod he constantly proccing. Feels good.
Not a spear fan.
I played around with the talent calculator on wowhead and feel that as much as I enjoyed gladiator stance, it really isn’t needed with the new talent system. Adding another stance would probably only complicate the tuning process that is already always questionable. In the current talent iteration, you can even build a 2 handed prot spec but the effectiveness is yet to be tested.
I mean, you wouldn’t have a shield so you wouldn’t be able to shield slam or block anything, which sounds kind of bad.
I support the idea of gladiator stance. It was really cool to have that option during WoD and it’d be fun for those that prefer sword and board dps.
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There at least needs to be a talent that removes the increased threat gen.
I don’t see any reason there needs to be 2 DPS stances. One will always be better.
If they want they can rename it to Battle/Berserker Stance depending on your spec.
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Would be cool if we can just switch to at least Battle Stance drop our threat. Honestly there are some good Dps options if we stay in Battle stance and can take all Bleeds with Aoe, Sudden death execute/Shield slam build etc. We have some pumper Dps options and many ways to do damage.
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