Spy Classic Addon needs to go

I think you misunderstand. Blizzard has allowed it for over a decade, so it must be ok. That’s not a fallacy, that’s just how it is.

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Blizzard also allowed Duty Finder/Flying Mounts/etc

Answer this honestly: If Blizzard came out right now and said a program that would mine and grind mobs for you is okay, would YOU be okay with it?

Okay you have got to understand the difference between formal and informal fallacies if you’re going to be a HS level debater just naming them.

Popularity does not justify actions when popularity isn’t a measure for acceptance, which is why the fallacy is informal. Blizzard is both aware of API access and the use of mods that exist for years, while also maintaining those rules from patch to patch. Everything within those boundaries is automatically blessed by Blizzard until Blizzard otherwise breaks its access, and for popular things, with an explanation. Blizzard checks for abusive behavior by…

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POPULARITY

Among other statistics.

So the fact that it is an exceptionally well known function used for years by the players on top of the fact that Blizzard actively encourages creative API use by giving us access to it makes an appeal to popularity not only valid but sound.

Quit while you’re behind.

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Except I did. Not my fault you’re inept or stupid.

Oh so you’re just arbitrarily setting rules of engagement for what things matter and don’t? Entitled and stupid. Fun.

What the hell is “Duty Finder”?

Would I have a choice? I’d be competing with every other player on my server. Keep up or get left behind.

I didn’t ask if you would use it, I asked if you would be okay with it simply because Blizzard is.

Also that mindset is exactly how athletes justify using performance enhancing drugs.

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I’m not ok with many things in the base game. So?

Thanks for the heads up, Installed it quick - lol

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So the answer is no, so we both agree that simply because Blizzard allows it doesn’t make it good.

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Its their game, not ours, they set the rules, they make the calls, they determine what is right and wrong.

If the competitive league allows, provides for, or even encourages drug enhancement, then that is what the authority provides. You keep appealing to some other, external authority on righteousness and behavior but you haven’t yet grounded it once.

No one is going to take you seriously if you keep making grand appeals to rules that don’t apply.

You’re in the Classic forum, a game that currently exists BECAUSE people pushed back against Blizzard’s ideas. So to come here and say “This is okay SOLELY because Blizzard says so” is hilariously out of touch.

I’m doing nothing like that lmao, you’re the one trying to justify the addon by saying blizzard says it’s okay, YOU’RE the one doing it, haha.

Seriously, I’m done with this back and forth with you, go back to school.

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I used an addon exactly like Spy in vanilla wow, called Paranoia

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No. Classic exists because Blizzard made it. Had Blizzard continued to say no, we wouldn’t have Classic. Your complaints and outcry on the matter didn’t pull the trigger on Classic, Blizzard had total control over that decision and total control alone (that and their shareholders and such).

You confuse making a convincing argument to the authority with wielding the authority yourself. Typical of a young person but juvenile and silly to hold. When you implore a court to hold in your favor, you’re openly admitting you lack the power to do it yourself and any decision that follows is on that judge or jury.

The same is true here: you begged Blizzard for Classic, and Blizzard decided that would be a good idea. That’s on Blizzard. Not you.

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Wrong.

Until you can provide a mechanic difference between this addon and an addon that will dodge spells for you, you have no argument.

Your very first post on the matter and your follow up, you called the addon cheating, you attacked players who use it as lazy. Blizzard has made no such determination on the matter and nothing in-game would lead anyone to such a conclusion.

The only way you could make such a determination is by appealing to some other, external, judgment on what “fair play” and “effort” actually mean as they relate to a video game. Either state what your ground actually is, or be treated like the petulant child you are that’s doing nothing more than screaming “I don’t like this!!”

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Stop being addon police. Addons are part of the game, were part of classic, and you don’t determine what fits within the scope of classic.

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One parses chat, the other plays your character for you.

Gee. So hard.

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On a mechanical level it IS. It’s a third party program you have to seek outside of the game to acquire which will give you an advantage in the game by eliminating the effort requirement and possibly failures.

There is no functional difference, the ONLY difference, like I said, is Blizzard allows it, but that is a superficial difference that only exists on paper.

Fair play? Yes
Effort? Uh? No? That has a universal definition, that doesn’t change based on circumstance.

Parses chat…then…go on, why you leaving out so much info? Parses the chat in order to…what? Come on, don’t be afraid to finish that sentence just because it’ll hurt your argument.

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You would save everyone a lot of headache by just admitting to being anti-addon, which is silly because Blizzard has allowed them since Beta.

One parses chat, a purely informational facet of the UI that is freely customizable and ignorable.

Your absurd example is a bot program that plays your character for you.

These are not the same thing in the slightest.

You think effort is objectively grounded? HAHAHA

There’s nothing left at the end of the sentence, it just parses chat, the same way you can select what does and does not show up in the visible Combat Log using the default UI. Parsing chat to highlight preset information over other information is a default UI mechanism, everything after that is on you to decide.

Your obtuse silliness makes sense now though that you’re just anti-addon. I guess you’ve been mad at Blizzard for 15yrs… what a sad existence.

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Your reading comprehension fails you again, as I already stated:
"I don’t think any add-ons that give you a gameplay benefit should be allowed.

RP stuff/cosmetic stuff is fine though."

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