Shadow priests damage is way, way, too high given their already insane self-healing, defensives, utility, and CC.
This class literally has everything, so in what way is it balanced? I’m not even joking 75% of the games I played last night in 3s had a shadow priest in it.
Void shift absolutely needs to go or needs to do 50% reduced healing in player vs player. Spriest teams should not automatically get a free lay of hands, whereby the healer cannot be punished regardless of how bad he/she plays.
It just feels like trash design when you can have a perfect go, but a priest can press 1 button and save his entire team/game while never being the kill target because of how busted greater fade and dispersion is.
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ive been saying this for a while. idk how anyones complaining about anything when you got a super stacked spec like shadow out there.
How about you chaos bolt harder.
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I agree with removing Void Shift, however I disagree with Spriest being just beyond comprehension in terms of OP. I think WW or Destro are far more awful to play against atm, and should be dealt with before looking to spriests.
Seem strong but no stronger than the other casters.
Let me enlighten you my friend.
Their damage is high because they’re the best multi dotter in the game. The talent misery allows them to apply both dots with 1 global per target so the damage rolls quicker. Unlike affliction, sp dots don’t require ramp up time.
SP doesn’t have high burst. It has mediocre burst and can help secure kills with shadow word: death. It’s a spread pressure spec with good cc and that’s that.
Void shift requires communication not to overlap defensive cds with the team. If your teammate trinket walls and you shift him at the same time, it costs you the game in some cases. Also you can counter shift by cross ccing the priest during your kill attempts. If the priest does shift, you can swap to him and attempt to force dispersion. I’ve been killed right after swaps too by arms warriors, balance druids and ele shaman that know it’s coming and catch me off guard. You can also kick a priest on mind control or vt and kill another target because the priest is locked out of shadow and can only mass dispel, power word:shield, and leap of faith.
TL;DR Your “perfect go” isn’t perfect if you didn’t cc the spriest.
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None of that invalidates that shadow is overturned at the moment…
There are specs far more overtuned than shadow at the moment. Don’t worry, TSG comin back will keep them in check. They’re honestly so easy to CC and train though.
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It’s almost like you have no idea what the spell even does. Also, insane self healing? You obviously just don’t like Shadow, so you’re throwing any complaint possible out there hoping it sticks.
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l2swap when they void shift instead of Mongo tunnel. have melee sit on spriest and have perma slow on them. basically using void shift means you have to disperse or have your healer ready and not ccd .
hi my name is incubuss and i’m completely incapable of swapping to a target at low hp
sure ya greater fade could do with a nerf (or even removed, idc either), but dispersion is fine tbh. don’t agree with it being 1min30s again due to a talent, but ya.
Yeah, honestly wouldn’t mind seeing fade go. I do like fading kidney goes against RMPs though so for that reason it can stay.
I just posted this on another thread, might as well post it here too.
- Fear needs to be cast on melee range and has a relatively long cooldown.
- Silence has a 45s cooldown and is our only interrupt.
- The stun is a 45s cooldown and takes a talent slot
- Mind Control also renders the caster defenseless for its duration
- Our resilience is there to compensate for the fact that we have close to 0 mobility
- We excel at spread pressure and don’t have any form of burst damage
Shadow Priests are in a good place right now for PvP, but they are far from the OPness you are claiming them to be.
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Look at these garbage cans in here defending this broken spec. There’s no other caster in the game right now that’s anywhere near as oppressive as Shadow. Rather fight Destro, Ele, and Boomkin for days vs. SPriest.
Greater Fade is a very fun talent that can be used to live, avoid CC, land CC, potentially misused and wasted, etc. I’d hate to see it go and really wish my other classes had abilities as useful and fun as this one.
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Nah, just sounds like you’re trash and don’t know how to deal with them. That’s why you’re posting on a 100 rather than your main.
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Greater fade wears off immediately when being aggressive so your “land cc” comment would disable it.
Not sure how. I sometimes use it to push in for a fear. You must be thinking trying to fade>MC or something.
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I mean, I pre MD and grip CCs all the time, but okay. Stay mad. Stay bad.