Well yeah. It’s a pretty popular theory that the red shard in the flow of souls that originally derailed the Arbiter was Argus’ soul at the end of Legion. The interference of the “Death” Titan being sent through the system causing it to shutdown. The timelines fit for when the anima drought started.
My theory is that the First Ones are not universal progenitors. They are actually only aligned with Order. That they are universal is either a lie or a misinterpretation from cosmic inhabitants who were robbed of any opportunity to ever know otherwise.
Hence so much of their designs just looking like more primordial Titan designs. The First Ones would have been to the cosmic outer planes what the Titans were to the Material plane’s planets. Roaming about the multiverse, imposing Order wherever they went, against whoever was there first, leaving the impression that theirs is the only way of things, the same way Azerothians once believed Titans were the one overarching power in the Great Dark. The Titans would just have been the First Ones’ custodians for the Material plane, the same way the Eternals are the custodians for the Shadowlands. An Order imposed ideal of what all planes and planets should have been, because currently, whatever conflict came before in the Material and Cosmic layer of the universe’s fractal, Order prevailed.
And what better way to ensure Order’s design is followed, than to make all these other realms believe they’re still following their own ethos? The Eternals might not even know they’re Order’s creations. Everyone in the Shadowlands right now could genuinely believe the way things are is how the Shadowlands are supposed to work, could genuinely believe they’re campaigning for Death, while in fact they’re campaigning for Order’s version of Death.
Part of safeguarding their legacy or simply showing preference for their kin and closest allies, the First Ones might have built a failsafe in the Arbiter to interrupt the machine of Death in case they themselves or their closest creations (like Titans) ever got destroyed. It wouldn’t have done for them to get munched in the Anima grinder like the common rabble. And Argus triggered that failsafe.
This also leads me to believe that the Void Lords are on par with First Ones on the power scale, the same way Olds Gods are the Void’s response to Titans. The Void Lords are literally banned out of reality because the First Ones prevailed in whatever original conflict happened. (Who else would have locked out the Void Lords, otherwise? The Titans themselves had never heard of them before Sargeras did).
Ah I really hope that Blizz DID NOT bring Argus without the knowledge of his important background in the lore…
…like they have done since BfA?
Teldrassil, Nothing, Elune, what else do we have
So Blizz is going to mess with Dreanei homeland this time?
Good luck with that
You know Natherizm was not big of a deal. Rather it could be a smart development of lore.
But Argus is different. That’s Dreanei’s homeland and the fundamental reason of the fight against the Burning Legion. That Death wasn’t this Death sigh
Edit) Everything about Dreanei in Azeroth and Outland started because Sargeras attacked Argus. And there was relatively good closure in Legion with Velen’s expression of relief.
Blizzard seriously want to undo that closure?
confusing and conflicting information or misinformation being released made people confused on what caused the arbiter to shut down. IIRC there were people saying that in interviews blizzard was saying that the arbiter was shutdown mid-early legion (can’t source this, dunno if this is misinfo that was spread or true). I much preferred the Denathrius theory, because it made more sense the guy that was responsible for an anima drought and was the string puller in the shadowlands also being the one that shut off the arbiter would’ve been totally believable and less convoluted than “Titans don’t go to the shadowlands, except sometimes they do.”
… of Pelagos’ questline into becoming the next one to serve the role of Arbiter. NPCs reveal / discover it was indeed Argus’ soul that derailed the Arbiter. Even more, Maw ritualists seem to try to hijack the ritual by summoning Argus’ lingering soul, so that Argus himself becomes Arbiter.
Yes I know, it’s silly and contradicts what some devs said before about Titan souls. But I still kind of like: it raises lots more interesting questions for cosmic mysteries about how and most of all why the various powers are interlinked.
Tweets there make a fair supposition that Time may be the key per Amanthul binding Argus during the fight. The other Titans were killed by Sargeras without that ingredient in the mix.
Blizzard is going to have to eventually have information in order to explain the Titan Azeroth / Elune, caveat being I think she’s one and the same, kinda like Elune is the mirror view of Azeroth, from said celestial body above and orbiting said world.
Yea his gear is very like the shadowlands, his scythe too. And his abilities. So perhaps the death magic titan god has a connection with shadowlands. The dranei too have special death magics and can bury there own dead in there own spaceships. They can bypass the normal death process. So I think it’s fun to speculate on such things.
Argus being the Death Titan and then actually dying and basically grounding out inside the Arbiter and causing her as an artificial entity to “shut down” sounds like something Blizzard would come up with here.
Dude’s were infusing souls into machinery and have such a long lifespan that we don’t even know what age they naturally parish. I’m on board with the theory as it makes so much sense.
