SPOILERS: Pantheon Keeper Tyr, was it a good idea?

The most powerful titan-forged keeper, the Paladin archetype, resurrected and with no purpose. Add the future discovery of the Arathi Kingdom, Lightforged Yrel on a rampage on a separate timeline, a Naaru worshipper on the throne of Stormwind.

That is not a good sign.

We’ve created a monster, with worshippers, and an army.

I think Tyr has the perspective enough (From what we know) to come to his own opinion on the world. While I doubt he’d break from the Titan’s directives, he’d most likely be able to break from light fueled zealotry.

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People who worship the Light - like the Lightbound, Arathi, or Turalyon - do not worship Tyr, and most likely do not know or care who he is (the Lightbound especially, given they’re on a different planet in an alternate timeline where they never came to Azeroth). Tyr himself seems less inclined to assert his old role, and more curious to learn what the world is now - he seemed pretty accepting of a troll paladin.

Tyr could turn into a problem, but it’s equally unlikely as it is likely.

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well stated, to me it that he’ll either be a Tyrael character, or an Inarius

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Incorrect.

The Arathi Empire became religious when the human warlord Thoradin made peace with Lordain, and made a pact that the entire empire would adopt their religious ways.

What was the symbol of the religion of the Arathi Empire? Tyr’s Silver Hand.

Turalyon is one of the first 5 paladins of The Silver Hand.

Also, it is easy to see how Yrel could submit to a new paragon of the Light (Tyr), just as Turalyon did (Xe’ra).

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bit of a harsh correction.

I do believe that the original Lordain loyalists venerated the light through a vision of the naaru. Humanity venerated Tyr long before.

You are jumping to conclusions about Tyr’s motives and his relationship to the Light.

Tyr was only a model of morality, not a worshiped godhead. The early Arathi saw his struggle against Zakajz, as a metaphor for the greater struggle against the Void.

There is divison amonst paladins since Legion, not all members of the Knights of the Silver Hand saw The Army of the Light as good. Boros had his doubts. There may yet be a split amongst paladins, those who blindly follow the Light, and those who follow morality (Tyr) as a guiding principle.

It’s still a bit unclear just how much knowledge the modern Church of the Holy Light retains concerning many of its tenets’ origins.

Following the Light specifically started with Lordain’s sister experiencing visions of a naaru, but a bunch of the moral and spiritual framework was already there from the organized reverence of Tyr that originated among Lordain’s tribe and was spread to the rest of humanity once Thoradin adopted it.

Yeah, but the alignment of Narru has also changed. At one point Naaru were seen as benevolent beings who had morally good intentions. That idea was shattered with Xe’ra.

The fact that Naaru can disagree and fight amonst themselves also shows that Naaru may have complex opinions and morality.

That is not akin to worship. That is reverence for an important figure. They erected statues of Varian Wrynn and Tirion Fordring, but the humans do not worship them.

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Oxford Languages Dictionary
Worship (noun) - the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.

LOL.

Someone missed this critical part…

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Don’t make me do this again bro …

Merriam-Webster
Deity (noun) - one exalted or revered as supremely good or powerful.

Actually, using the same dictionary you used for your definition,
(plural deities)
​[countable] a god or goddess

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You know, you saw my definition, and omitted it.

When you see Zoddrick post, just know you are probably wrong if you disagree.

That is no different than saying a racket is not a bat with an oval shape for playing tennis, but that it is actually a fraudulent scheme.

Can’t beat reality Faranoth.

The vrykul worshiped Tyr and the other Keepers as gods (at least most of them; Ymiron’s followers explicitly stopped doing so), but it’s not entirely clear whether their human descendants actually remembered enough about his nature as they built their own societies to see him as such (they forgot that they came from vrykul after all), or if they just conceptualized him as a vague and idealized heroic figure of non-specific race and indeterminate origin.

Obviously the Tyr’s Guard preserved knowledge of such things, but the rest of humanity - even Lordain’s devout people - may not have retained that sort of specific recollection by the time they were organized into the tribes that would eventually unify under Arathor.

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Your definition nitpicked what you wanted to support you, including switching between dictionaries.

I didn’t find any other definition in the Oxford dictionary.

Also, you conveniently ignore important words in the definition:

which is not usually the case for a ruler, unless the ruler has something like divinity associated.

I’ll forget who you are after this conversation.

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I’m gonna keep it real with you, my guy.

In the past I would have argued with you. However, nowadays I am trying to make more of an effort not to waste time arguing with silly people who won’t have their mind changed over stuff that’s irrelevant to my day to day.

So whatever you say, man.

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I don’t think Tyr would get the villain bat. It would be extremely out of character if he suddenly became evil. Given his prior characterization seen in Chronicles vol 1 AND the new lore books we found in Ulduman. If you want a Titan Keeper that is big on ‘the light’ as a motif, you got Odyn right there in all of his smug arseholiness. Whom is also Tyrs foil.

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Even in the War of the Scaleborn, while he may have been strict at times, he always had Azeroths best interests in mind. He’s one of the few who genuinely cares