*Spoilers* Elune and Xe'ra

I thought this needed it’s own thread. One overlooked detail of the latest Chronicles book, is that Khadgar’s statement about Elune possibly creating Xe’ra, may have been retconned.

https://x.com/TheRedShirtGuy/status/1814856439380275216

In Legion, we were told he found a text that said the Prime Naaru may have been created by Elune. Now, according to the third paragraph in the screenshot, Rlune and Xe’ra simply had a “celestial connection.”

Elune still has her grubby hands on the Naaru, though.

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I’m still smarting from the days from when the devs would claim that the night elf goddess was a Naaru whose proper name was E’Lune.

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Judging by the wording in the new book, could still be the case. It is still rather vague

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Velen being right all along would be a slap to Tyrande.

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In game books are an unreliable narrator. We have no idea who wrote that book Khagar refers to. Chronicle neither confirms nor denies it’s authencity. It’s not a retcon.

I hope this celestial connection doesn’t end with the boring explanation that all pantheons are just half-siblings or something more dull and uncreative.

We still don’t know why Tear of Elune was among the most important Titan artifacts. Or if the text retconned her presence in the great ordering of Light and Shadow, if she was ever there.

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Changing what the book says is a retcon.

If the text is true, then Elune is closer to being a Naaru than before, honestly.

Xal’atath in her whispers refer to the Naaru as brethren it’s already happening.

I think Elune is somewhat safe from that design but her being cosmic and interdimensional does offer more mistakes. :robot::sweat_drops:

That makes sense.

After Elune being tied to the “life realm” as The WQ’s sister and counterpart, it becomes hard to tie her to the creation of the Naaru.

Still, I wonder what the connection with Xe’ra is.

Elune’s cosmic connections are a big question, and we know whatever she is nowadays, it wasnt planned at the start when she was introduced as the moon goddess of the night elves in WC3, but that much is true for almost every concept.

So Elune so far in terms of connections.

Is mother of cenarius, whose father is Malorne, so… Connected to Malorne (wild god) in a very deep way.

Has an unclear connection with Xe’ra the prime Naaru.

Called upstart goddess by Xal’atath.

Sister of the Winter Queen.

Eonar’s great love, romantic love? Platonic love? We don’t know, but we also know eonar was hidden from the legion in a World called Elunaria, maybe thats Elune’s realm in the life dimension?

Worshipped across the cosmos but somehow favors the Night elves.

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Maybe the Titan Azeroth is too valuable? :robot::thought_balloon:

…or the World Trees feed on the Titan Azeroth? :robot::sweat_drops:

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This needs to be canon tbh.

Can we say is that a bad thing? Canonically for some reasons Azeroth loves energy of life/spirit. First, she absorbed it so much that the other elements fell into chaos. Then through Amirdrassil she blessed the Aspects to protect planet. So Azeroth = Titan of Life conspiracy come back again? :upside_down_face::mag_right:?

Aman’thul was cautious about the first World Tree. He’s omniscient about something to the forces of Life. :crystal_ball::robot:

Don’t ever suggest Azeroth as any god of Life, that’s a monkey’s paw situation to Elune. :robot::sweat_drops::sweat_drops::sweat_drops:

edit: Well. I’m really afraid Elune would be replaced. :8ball::robot:

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Just remember, this may not have had happened. The in game book that his comes from has a disclaimer that a lot of what is in it is widely disputed.

Then again, that usually means it actually happens because that is how the trope goes and we all know Blizzard is not good enough to subvert that trope correctly.

This might be the nicest thing you’ve said about that Naaru. So Xe’ra had some sort of connection with Elune who’s now a Life agent AND allowed arcane magic in her army? Looks like they’re walking back the edgelord “MuH LiGhT zEalOtrY!” angle from that Legion cinematic; good.

Originally, Elune was slated to be above other beings. Like WoW’s big-G Creator God or one of the First Ones from Shadowlands. Then that story was screwed with Elune being made a “mere” Life Titan - I always said it would’ve been better if EONAR was the Winter Queen’s sister.

Could Elune and Xe’ra have had some anti-Burning Legion alliance? Could Elune have still had a hand in making the Naaru? Could they be preparing to give Xe’ra more story than being Illidan’s jobber? Could this be the beginning of the end of the “cosmic forces free-for-all” with the beginning of some sort of peace treaty between at least two?

Terror replaced by cautious optimism!

It’s okay, thanks to Shadowlands lore – She’s not a Naaru anymore.
She’s a magic robot. :sob: :joy:

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There isn’t any evidence of that happening. That is an assumption to which you and others have leaped.

Texts in libraries are not guaranteed to be objectively true… neither in our own libraries, nor in the fictional libraries of Azeroth. Khadgar saying he found a book that says something does not mean it is true, nor that there couldn’t be another book elsewhere which claims something different from the first one. The “lore” of what Khadgar said in Legion is that he found a book which makes a claim. That will be true both before and after we find out what Elune is… even if she is different; that book which Khadgar found will claim what it claimed. Books can be false.

I definitely agree that Metzen intended something else when he first introduced Elune to warcraft. I am highly confident that Metzen was a fan of dungeons and dragons which had a goddess named Selune who was a goddess of the moon with a light and dark personality and a connection to priestesses as well as werewolves. And no, I don’t think Metzen wanted to exactly copy Selune…just as he didn’t want to exactly copy the Orcs from Tolkien. He wanted to borrow the themes and the “what seems cool about the mood they evoke” and then make his own history for them. Both in the case of Orcs and in the case of Elune.

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Weird thought. I wonder if the first Naaru were actually born from early stars, which are themselves big chunks of primordial crystallized light and elemental flame. That might align with the idea of a celestial connection given stars and whatnot are Elune’s bag.

My bet would be more she was based on Eilistraee.

The core concept of Kaldorei is basically Eilistraee Drow and Wood Elves put in a blender.

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The goddess Selune has more in common with Elune than anything I had to look up for your example. No blender required.