The funny thing is you’re not the first one to tell this person that in this thread.
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Actually, there are a couple more.
I believe Leonid Barthalomew the Revered is.
I know Crusader Lord Valdelmar is. I want to say the Scarlet Warders and Praetorians are as well, but I’m too lazy to confirm.
"As the great hive tendrils of the Void sweep across the cosmos, it has been noted that even they avoid specific worlds. Despite the rampant spread of the ruinous powers and other Netherspawned horrors, there are curious places in the galaxy where even the overwhelming howls of chaos have been silenced. Places where the silence is far more terrifying than the screams.
If the great awakening is at hand, the wild god’s monstrosities, the great host of Titanforged armies and even the Naaru themselves may find that for all their awesome power - this universe was never truly theirs. They are merely trespassers in death’s domain"
- Reworked and stolen from 40k
I’d at least like a Forsaken future where they figure out they’re part of this great cosmic wheel, and break it to form a synergy with the living and other domains. And it’s their friendship with the Horde races that does this.
I always thought the Forsaken should have tried to steal Vigilant technology from Argus.
So, uh… What’s Helcular up to?
Dude was Kel’thuzad’s apprentice and a skilled necromancer in his own right. You’d think he would be helping raise new Forsaken.
I loved his moxie during the pre-Legion invasions.
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Calia is awful. It gets even worse when other leaders fawn over her, too.
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I was honestly surprised he was considered to still be around. I figured he would have been considered canonically re-killed, since I think he became a rare spawn that alliance would want to kill for drops back then.
But as far as I know, Blizzard just ignored him outside of the Legion prepatch.
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Lenoid isn’t actually a Paladin. He’s just a deader that’s fully committed to the code of chivalry. He is cool, though.
Valdelmar is fair game.
The Forsaken (any undead, really) can wield the Light, it just requires a certain conviction that not a lot of them still have after doomsday essentially happened and their god wasn’t there to save them.
If anything, I’d say it requires even more conviction than before. To still hold true to a faith that has been shaken to the core of its being and being willing to wield it at the personal expense of extreme pain takes some big boy britches.
There is a population of Light adherents in Forsaken society still, it’s just a tiny minority, in contrast to the Cult of Forgotten Shadow that gained a lot of sway in its place. It’s a lot more sympathetic to their views as a society (as the society is fractured and so is the cult, in that it has no formal leadership, thus leaving multiple branches of the cult to have different interpretations on its teaching) and is effective in the power it offers.
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THere is zero lore on what is the most in fact the lore says that the cult of shadows was destroyed till it was reformed in legion
It is unclear when or how it happened, but the Cult of Forgotten Shadows eventually fell apart.
`https://wow.gamepedia.com/Cult_of_Forgotten_Shadows#History
Yeah of all the pseudo-retcons/lore “clarifications” of the past few xpacs, this makes Top 5 Dumbest Narrative Choices for me.
Especially the cop-out of Natalie Seline being Not Actually Dead so she’s just basically a Soulstone’d Human instead of a Forsaken Shadow Priest Hero type character.
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Agreed, Calia for leader of the Forsaken would be a tragedy. Bring back the Desolate Council.
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I can easily tell you how it did collapse (as a body) given that it never had formal leadership and several different sub-cults of who believed what (much like Christianity and Catholicism, if you’d humor the idea). I can tell you for free that people don’t just stop believing things just because the church stops holding sermons.
It’d be pants on head stupid for these people, who had been shunned by the Light, to have an extreme overnight religious shift. The Church of the Holy Light did not make some sweeping comeback.
Actually, I’d even go as far to say that the last holdouts of the Cult of Forgotten Shadow are found within the Forsaken’s society and is what kick-starts its resurgence into the world beyond it just being a Forsaken thing, given that the group who gives you the quest is made up of entirely Forsaken.
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You forget the most important part of the forsaken wielding the light though. It is physically painful for them to do so because of the dark magic that binds them together. When a forsaken priest uses the light or a forsaken is healed by the light (Death Knights as well), it apparently is painful.
Again, not everyone who worships, wields the magic
Anybody can wield a mage if you get a good grip on their ankles and don’t let go while swinging.
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Oh lol i meant magic
I did mention it!
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Yea that’s cool and all… UNTIL ‘‘YOU KILL HER OFF’’ AND MAKE A 0 LOGIC ABOMINATION UNDEAD HOLY WTFALOO CHARACTER AND THEN MAKE IT CANON IN GAME. /rant off.
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Zelling from the horde campaign showed actually what it meant to be a forsaken. Guy did everything for his family and when they saw him they ran away from him like he was a monster. Its not rainbows and lollipops in the life of a forsaken and he experienced it first hand.
Calia on the other hand knows no forsaken struggles and hasnt even been there! Hell the Dreadlord Varimathras would have more claim in my eyes than Calia, atleast he was there(Yes I know he was plotting).
She is not even running around here like a rotting abomination and if anything she could pass for a titan keeper than a undead. Go sit her in there with Magni and Mother, she can be the new Maiden of Virtue lol.
Her main connection to them Is because her brother was a bad a++ and killed up their whole nation. Once she hid all these years she lost the right to speak on the forsaken behalf to me.
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