I think it’s more the lore of those race’s and how they became Druids. Kul Tirans are a slightly different part of Druidism, understanding the balance of both life and death. While many Druids focus on bringing life, the Thornspeakers also understood the need for death and balance within that cycle.
The Zandalari Druids are linked closely to their Loa. So it would mean a non-troll having to covet favor with that Loa. Not unheard of, but difficult.
With the Legion appearances, those came from other wild gods that anyone could access and learn from. So it’s a matter of opening up those different Druidic cultures to other races, which can get a bit awkward in their implementation. Especially for Worgen, since theirs is based off of a curse.
Yeah it makes sense to me, and I appreciate the different kinds of druidism in WoW, and love that they gave us more options for druids but… I got the Dreamer title for my druid, and his theme song is Supertramp’s “Dreamer” for a reason. It will never happen, but still. I’mma keep dreamin’!
There has been a lot of effort cleaving hairs to support Blizzard’s flimsy reasoning on bringing back the bear. I don’t care that they did, but there are also only 2 flail rigs (yes, those are separate rigs) in the game, and they both come from the Mage Tower.
The simplest explanation is usually the correct one - there were 2000x the amount of threads crying on the forums for the werebear than for literally anything else, and so that squeaky wheel got the grease. The excuse they gave was simply because ‘yeah, we caved’ would result in a flood of threads to get everything else in the game back… and yet some people here are actually buying in.
Which was explained time and time again. Even by Blizz.
During Legion, the Mage Tower awarded most specs a new weapon appearance, yet players who missed earning those still have countless other admirable weapon transmogs to collect across the whole of the game. But for Guardian druids, the Mage Tower prize was an alternate bear form with a unique silhouette and animations. There is simply nothing else like it in the game. For years, we’ve heard feedback from druid players who are frustrated that something so transformative is no longer available, and we agree.
I’m glad you agree, it’s the argument you’re making worded differently. All that effort moving the goal posts from the ‘rig/animation’ garbage must have worn you out.
LOL it’s not my argument at all. Saying “don’t make anymore transmogs,” versus “you’ve got hundreds and bears got four,” isn’t even remotely the same.
You continue to get transmogs. Bears do not. Your flail is meaningless when there’s hundreds of weapons to choose from. The bear is definitely not meaningless when there’s only four forms. Maybe five.
Attempting to say “then don’t make anymore weapons, because no flail,” has no basis in logic.
This is what you continue to not get - there being hundreds of weapons is meaningless if none of those weapons are flails. No one continues to get flails. There are even less flails then there are bear forms. If bear forms are rare, flails are nearly non-existent.
Simply saying “flail = weapon so just mog another a totally different weapon type” is disingenuous and arguing in bad faith, which is why I don’t see a point in continuing here.
Edit - that said, you have post count inflation considerations so… carry on below.
No according to Blizzard. When you have hundreds of other weapons to use and a bear still only had four, it doesn’t matter. It might to you, but not to them.
I would definitely push for a reskin, though. As I said, some of the artifact weapons have already been reskinned. If we’re lucky, we can get them to make a new cat rig and reskin the flail later on.
Ah. So you’d rather resort to ad hominem. Good day to you!
The important part of what Blizzard discusses is animation. Animation, and rigging. The flail swings in the same manner all 1-handers do. In that, it is in fact the same thing as every other one hander in the game minus fist weapons, daggers, and wands. That’s why they’re not making more of them.
Should they? Sure. Is it relevant to MT discussion? Not so much.
They tried that with Legion artifacts, outside of artifacts and the Legion invasions there were no weapons and it sucked!
I hope you realize you just said no, as if you disagreed, and then you said the same thing Shadina said. Both you and Shadina are right, the animation is the same. The physics of the flails don’t change the animation itself.
They didn’t open Pandora’s Box. They brought back a specific type of content, and directly state they will respect player time, and achievement while doing so, hence different rewards for this round. The exception is guardian druid because of extreme circumstances surrounding that in particular reward. Something being an exception is not opening Pandora’s Box, it is openly recognizing something as an extreme case and responding in a manner which they felt was appropriate.
Sparkle cat is just a cat. It does not fit the requirements, or the criteria to be brought back again. And it shouldn’t be. Player time and achievement should, and in the eyes of Blizzard, does mean something.
