I mean that’s a possible solution I guess, but also a slippery slope cause then the other two tiers feel like they could have a reward.
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yeah, right now 9-11 just feel superfluous. Something more needs to be done with them, even if it’s just cosmetics unique to those difficulties.
Having difficult content for the sake of difficult content is fine and all, but I’d prefer that in the form of challenges like the mage tower or zekvir, not “the same content, but harder and with no reward”
afaik other than a few achievs, there’s no reason to run above an 8 right now.
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For those of us that do more than one type of content (heroic raid, in my case), delves were a nice supplement to the vault when you had bad rng from the raid that week. I can understand their concerns around m+, but I’d rather they make m+ feel like less of a slog than nerf delve loot.
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That’s right, but isn’t that the case with M+ as well? (I honestly don’t know… Never done M+)
They offer achievements. And a title. If that’s not as enticing as a cosmetic, I understand, but they do offer unique rewards already.
theyre def gonna make changes their next round. might kill delves lol
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yeah, but there’s 
points
and a competitive aspect seeing who can get the highest score and/or run the highest keys.
It makes sense, the difficulty / reward balance is completely off with delves. Would be fine if they made them harder.
Completely lame if true. I can’t imagine any pure delvers arguing for this nonsense.
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Yeah, I get that but I also consider the amount of people who are upset that their gear is stuck at 4/6 hero because they don’t do M+8 or last 2 heroic bosses for a source of gilded crests and I just think the delver onlys would be more satisfied if they were able to ‘finish’ their gear at 6/6 champion
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Silly me, I thought the point of the good rewards in delves was so I didn’t have to bother with the garbage that is M+ anymore. The only way I’d be remotely okay with this is if they added more levels to Delves or something that then had the better rewards.
Forcing me to do M+ is the quickest way to get me to do neither. I can already slowly push to whatever the “world player” wall is (right now 619) via weekly quests and other activities, delves just makes it a bit quicker and offers something interesting. I’ll easily skip BOTH “pillars” if they ruin one to force another.
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This is what I think. Why aren’t they giving higher gear for T9, T10, and T11? I do not understand the stop at T8. Or, if the level gear is too high, then squish a bit and make the T11 get that gear.
It’s just a very strange system to have three tiers that are “for ego” (which I keep seeing around the forums).
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Or…hear me out here…change M+s so that the rewards are more equivalent to delves.
No reason it has to be a +7 to get a 3/6 heroic piece from the vault
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I think it’s nice to see T9+ and Zekvir as cosmetic/achieve only difficulties. They’re optional but seemed also to be a bit buggy perhaps with damage.
For me, I would certainly not be more satisfied with some ‘finish’ concept regarding hero being viewed as stuck at 4/6. I see it as an opportunity which I know I won’t ever complete, but at least there is more to do.
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So they need to make some changes to prop up M+ levels 0-6. Interesting, I wonder if they are going to flat out remove rewards or just push them to higher level Delves. I don’t know how I feel about this.
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Good. Delves awarded gear that was too high for how difficult it wasn’t.
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They better not nerf delves. Not out fault they squished M+ down…dumb decision. All to happy too skip M+…
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The gear is needed for killing Zekvir at ?? Difficulty. Lowering the gear cap makes delve players endgame boss incredibly difficult unless we dip into M+ or raiding.
Why is it ok for delves to require M+ and raids to get their endgame completed?
The hero track gear is fine, if M+7 doesn’t feel relevant bump up their reward track a bit. No need to nerf the delve player rewards which imo are in a pretty much perfect place.
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If that’s the case then it’s just yet another Dev only problem they want to “Fix” 0 players have an issue with this, I’m so sick of these Devs “Fixing” problems that only they have.
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