Ok, most can agree Choreghast is not fun and it’s a select few who actually enjoy it.
Why do we have to grind out another 1650 Soul Cinders? Then probably another for the 2nd legendary… so 3300 soul cinders? When you receive only 230 cinders at level 9 (thats running choreghast at least 15 times to get that!)… yea I said 9, the content isn’t enjoyable in any way shape or form, I did it because I had to, not because I wanted to. Then along comes blizzard to force us back in there to level up our legendries… why? Why not just make these currencies purchasable with in game gold or convert soul ash to cinders 1 for 1. You made it easy to get cosmic flux (have 11k), why not soul cinders? Games shouldn’t feel like chores, they should be fun…
If I’m wrong, correct me please.
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I was looking up if there was any other ways to get soul cinders yesterday honestly lol. I just came back to the game after basically taking 95% of shadowlands off and I still can’t stand Torghast.
I still don’t get why they spent so much time building Torghast only for it to be used for a legendary currency. Such a waste.
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If the game had no chores ( farms , grind ) you would beat the game in 1 week
Torghast may be annoying but you can spam it and be done in few hours
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Due to poor game design, correct.
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If you already have legendaries at 262 all you need is Flux and teh new base item . had both of mine at 291as soon as base piece was available
And thankyou for informing me that I am part of a select few , never been part of that before
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Just join a group and run it like a dungeon if you hate it so much. Plenty of groups that would accept a druid throwing out a rejuv every few minutes.

Imho, that is a terrible mindset to have… grinding doesn’t have to be a chore. You can make it fun… maybe blizzard needs to get in touch with Smilegate.
The point went 3 miles over your head…
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are you sure about that ? People all already burned out from Lost Ark because they need 15 alts and are quitting the game because the game never end and waste your time because it’s a gambling machine
you have to collects things for x hours then gambling everything
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Torghast isnt a chore --its great fun , either solo or in groups . the reason most players dont like it is because it offers little to no rewards and ya know that most players these days expect a trophy for just logging in
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So how exactly would you make it fun in your mind? Please let us all know so they can fix it right away.
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Well, time to pack it in boys, someone said Torghast isn’t a chore, so it isn’t now.
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Why is it up to the consumer to do the game designers job? There is a reason why millions of people have left. 1 simple word, ‘systems’.
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Yea and they just did a big update about that… increasing the currency you receive by a bunch.
You are officially the only person still playing that enjoys choreghast, im impressed.
They’re all the essentially the same thing, with tank-n-spank bosses where all you gotta do is kick something… change it up, all should be 1 floor, no more. Make all wings open, each one is actually different from the next, so you can choose what you wanna do. Maybe one can be timed and have a boss fight w/ short berserk timer and that’s it, maybe one is a large maze where the map is grey’d out and you can’t see anything, maybe another is a different random puzzle each time… anything would be more fun than what is currently being given.
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Did you try the jailer gauntlet ? new torghast mode ( you just have to fight boss every floor ) you don’t need to walk etc , it’s more fun and faster than normal Torghast + you get nice amount of Cinders + Ash
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Wouldn’t say they’re any faster than the normal ones just due to difficulty scaling… they aren’t fun. It’s just torghast… I am at lvl 3 which is like 260ilvl. If I wanted the games I play to feel like one-dimensional, boring grind-fests… I’d play vanilla wow.
Tbh, I kind of got burnt out by torghast in 9.0. I have only done it a hand full of times since 9.1 dropped and up to now.
I know what changes they’ve made, but it was already done for me, unfortunately.
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Agree that boreghast has way too much grind layered on it
Did boreghast enough in 9.0 to do me for the entire xpac
This bliz team sucks at making ‘fun’ grinds, instead constantly going for ‘tolerance testing burnout’ grinds
This team’s design goals aren’t remotely close to anything like ‘delivering fun and entertainment to our players’
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Blizzard wants their heroes to be happy and gay, all these grinding systems for loaned power are their way of saying ‘don’t do it if you don’t enjoy it for it is better if you stay a low-life until Blizzard chooses to carry you than for you to pretend you are not a low-life and do content you do not enjoy.’
Could just not get the max legendary. If u don’t like torghast could just not do it for a legendary upgrade that realistically dosent even give you much actual power at all.
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If you have been too lazy to worry about keeping a Legendary upgraded to this point, why bother now getting it and a 2nd one to 291 ilvl? You make no since OP, that you need it, because clearly how you play the game you don’t.
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