Sylvanas did to Delaryn what Arthas did to her, yet she didn’t even come with us in Shadowlands and was left behind in Azeroth?
Surely she’d want to see Sylvanas brought to justice just like Sylvanas wanted to see Arthas brought to justice, but it seems like she was just kind of forgotten? This could’ve been an opportunity to make Delaryn a character that’s known for more than just the night elf that got brutally murdered by Sylvanas, then suddenly raised and then started hating her own people (for whatever reason).
Sylvanas killed Delaryn and forced her to watch as she commited a genocide against her people. Then raised her against her will to prove her that there’s no hope left. She eventually broke free from (was left behind by) Sylvanas
Arthas killed Sylvanas and then raised her as a banshee, also forced her to watch as he commited a genocide against her people until she eventually broke free from his bane.
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Based on when we last saw her and most undead night elves, they are going thru therapy with Calia to come to terms with their new existence.
I’d guess they see getting revenge against Sylvanas as less important to getting themselves right.
Meta wise I’m pretty sure they just don’t want to deal with the whinging of both horde and night elf stans about undead night elves.
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I’m pretty sure nobody would’ve minded undead night elves if they weren’t written in such a horrible and stupid way
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Meta wise I’m pretty sure they just don’t want to deal with the whinging of both horde and night elf stans about undead night elves.
Given that Delaryn’s druidic boyfriend can be found in Ardenweald and is asking about her, I don’t think this is true. We’ll see her again in all likelihood. They’re just waiting for the right moment to twist the knife.
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They literally are just an escalation tactic. That is all they were based on what we know of Sylvie’s motives. Just like Darkshore itself was nothing more than an escalation tactic to trigger the Alliance opening up a front there. That is the only way any of what happened in that zone even slightly makes sense. Her just trying to settup another soul meatgrinder for both sides again…
Eh, I’m probably just grouchy on the idea but I wouldn’t have been a fan of undead night elves no matter how they were done. Either they’d stick with the horde and they represent an unplayable race option taking up attention, or they go back to the alliance and they get to soak up the pity aspect of the forsaken while the actual playable version is at an all-time sympathetic low.
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I’m still betting on her going back to the Alliance eventually. Or at least, desperately hoping for it. I don’t want her.
We’ll see … Strangely, with a sane writing team that wants to rebuild the world, Summermoon might actually have some neat opportunities within the ranks of the Dark Rangers. Solely due to their current situation after Sylvanas. In a very “be the change you want to see, one hand on the wheel is better than none” sort of way. But that would take actual tact to pull off.
Her heading back to the NEs would likely render her little more than Dead Feathermoon in a lot of ways. Who knows what sort of stories she’d get in such a spot. Assuming they’d want stories for her.
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They should be forgotten, the whole concept is a travesty and overly mean-spirited. They should absolutely not engage with the Horde in any capacity, let alone be Horde or Forsaken. It was an asinine concept that should have never seen the light of day.
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It was just the execution that was awful. All people wanted when it was in ptr and then live was it to not be forced and for it to make sense…
None of that happened and it only caused more problems.
This whole thing would have been a lot better if they had not forced that bs war in the first place. MoP remains the best representation of a Horde v Alliance conflict done right.
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Presumably, she died the final death fighting the victorious Night Elf/Worgen/Motley Champion army. So she’s probably in the Maw being ground into stygia.
Hard disagree on your last paragraph there. MOP was little more than an blueprint for BFA, and was rightfully reviled at the time.
MOP gave us the High King concept - which served to prop up Varian at the expense of the Night Elves.
MOP gave us the idea of blowing up a city for shock value when clear motivations already existed.
MOP continued on the tradition of presenting the Horde as powerful and in control while the Alliance was either struggling to contain them or failing (although not as badly as Cata)
Siege of Orgrimmar satisfied incredibly few people, and instead was presented as both an occasion that highlighted Horde weakness and Alliance spinelessness. The Horde had its faction capitol sacked, the Alliance didn’t capitalize and only was able to do it because the Horde was fractured.
MOP in general took the blueprint for an aggressive Horde warchief who wasn’t evil and who a lot of people actually got behind and made him evil in order to wrap up the faction war and proceed into WoD where they proceeded to vandalize Orcs even further.
Vanilla was the best representation of Horde v. Alliance done right - something based in small-scale conflicts around the world where both sides were motivated to participate.
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What, do you think they went to Lordaeron to go get her or something? She turns up in the BFA epilogue there.
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And I disagree with you on that, admittedly except the High King concept.
However, I strongly believe it was the best with a conflict between the two. Vanilla was just small conflicts here and there. MoP was a full on war and when it started to die down it didn’t feel like it put a sour taste in anyone’s mouth. The execution of the story was great and it never felt like forced nonsense. Then there was the pacing which wasn’t tied down by this trope that they keep going with now where everything has to be an f’n mystery. Just straight forward and to the point which payed off in a way that didn’t piss everyone off.
The only things that I’ve seen at the time with people complaining about was:
- Tyrande (a little patience).
- High King
- Blizzards oopsie moment with the Sunreavers scenario remaining bugged and them refusing to fix it.
- “Kung fu Pandas” which was and still is easily shot down and leads to the ignorant being educated about pandaren in warcraft 3.
That was all people were really complaining about with the story in MoP. It was not this reviled thing that YOU try to make it out to be and I doubt it was a blue print, because leading into Bfa we were basically told that bfa was going to be used as a do over because Blizzard wanted to tie up loose ends (failed spectacularly).
If it was a blue print, then that says a whole lot about that abomination called battle for azeroth.
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I would argue that you missed quite a few elements there then - especially the widespread dissatisfaction with Siege of Orgrimmar, what that meant for the Horde, and what it meant for the Alliance.
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People had a problem with Varian stopping Thrall from killing Garrosh. That was pretty much it on the Horde side. On the Alliance, people were upset that they didn’t get to finish the Horde off then and there, BUT accepted the fact that Varian wasn’t going stand by and let the Horde go willy nilly and Alliance players were fine with that… then he and Vol’jin died and we got… the other two.
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So really it wasn’t MoP plot that people were upset with, but instead was upset at what Blizzard did with it afterwards with Horde and Alliance.
Vol’jin remained useless and did nothing.
He died to the Legion equivalent of a grunt.
Varian was replaced with Anduin who people never liked in the first place.
Blizzard seemingly wants to gloss over Warcrimes existence.
Sylvanas never being a true leader of the Horde that people would have liked in the end of it all.
Jaina’s characterization being flip flopped all over the place.
And Thrall being useless.
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Which is part of MOP, as was the robot cat, the kerfuffle over Vol’jin’s dialogue, and Garrosh being villainized when in Cata, he actually was an interesting character who accidentally managed to strike the right balance between aggression and honor.
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Agreed, but people accepted the outcome in the end because the reasoning behind his motivations was understandable and straight forward instead of forced and written like a game of thrones plot.
I think there is a good chance that Delaryn makes an appearance in Shadowlands considering that we had Calia show up via portal.
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I don’t want her because she’s a living (undead) reminder of what BfA put the Horde through, and she would be a perpetual sore spot for Alliance players as well due to the terrible writing that led to her joining the Horde in the first place.
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