Was just passing by on my low level hunter and I see a level 1 Dwarf warrior flagged for pvp killing a couple of Level 6 Undead Warlocks over and over in the graveyard. I mean just repeatedly, dead, respawns, dead, respawns, etc.
Can someone explain this to me?
They are boosting the PVP bracket numbers.
You need 15 kills to be included in the PVP pool. They are adding spots for ranking in PVP by getting kills with those level 1s.
Sounds like pvp bracket boosting. The more ‘players’ that participate in pvp for the week – and the threshold is 15 HKs – the more people that can be in the top bracket. Sometimes there isn’t even a top bracket (14th bracket) if there is not enough participation.
So the guy makes a level 1 dwarf gets 15 hk’s , logs out deletes the character and creates another one. repeat over and over.
what a terrible and disgusting practice. it’s basically cheating and i hope they throw the book at him - permanently.
How is it cheating?
How is it hurting anyone? (what is the source of your anger?)
Tone is hard to convey in written form here but I want to say, you obviously don’t understand how this ranking system works and do not know the backstory of this sort of practice of inflating the brackets.
It literally harms no one, and it literally helps everyone (unless they don’t pvp then it doesnt harm them but it doesnt help them)
Other players who pvp who are not doing the bracket boosting, do not even know it is occurring, it does not slow their ranking down in any way, in fact it speeds it up for them.
I’ll use a imaginary example. Imagine you live in a city area where there are several freeways they are all congested every morning. The morning commute is awful. 10 citizens decide to pay for, arrange for, and have completed overnight – the widening of the freeway. Just one specific freeway – it went overnight from 3 lanes to 5. Most people that use that freeway didn’t pay for it, didn’t attend the meetings in preparation. they did nothing, but they sure like the faster commute! They will never know. It is something they are doing anyway…driving to work…and now its easier.
The people on the other freeways arent affected positively or negatively (these would be equivalent to people who do not pvp at all in game), whatever they are doing is just as slow or fast as it was before.
But for those benefactors on the ‘pvp’ freeway, they get to their same goal, ALL OF THEM, faster.
regarding it being cheating: so some background here. This practice was started back in Classic release 2 years ago by one server, cannot remember the name. There was actually a release by Blizzard "we are looking into this " statement. It seemed fishy enough to Blizzard to look into it. In the end, Blizzard did nothing. They had all the names of those involved, and it was ALOT. But did nothing. I cannot pretend to know Blizzards reasoning but I would assume it has something to do with what I wrote above – it helps everyone, it hurts no one. They also acknowlege their PVP ranking system is a super grind, which anecdotally they further acknowlege by doubling the rate of pvp progression in SoM.
It’s as if Blizzard is doing the boosting of brackets for us, haha. I had not thought of that until now.
How is it cheating?
How is it hurting anyone? (what is the source of your anger?)
It hurts those that play the game as it was intended to be played. You are gaining an edge by cheating.
Except that Blizzard tacitly endorsed it in Classic when they were going to ban it, but then rolled back their ban when the entire PvP community went insane.
Blizzard is very aware of all of this. Enough that they actually reversed a decision that would make deleted level 1s not count to the PVP pool over player backlash.
I don’t know if the deleted level 1s count for SoM.
In the past, they banned those who botted to pool boost (I actually know a group of botters who got many accounts banned during this time), pretty harshly actually, but not those who manually made the level 1s and killed the level 6 warlocks or whatever doing “pool parties”.
People can think what they want about it but ultimately it just lets people play fewer hours to rank without account sharing/botting. There are several stories of people getting so little sleep when ranking that they sent themselves to the hospital or had serious car accidents due to sleep deprivation, yes people have died over it. Many people say the “Vanilla” ranking system sucks and this need to play as much as possible is why they say that.
Please shut this exploiting down blizzard.
Apparently it is called win trading and/or bracket manipulation and it is against the rules.
From the in-game Code of Conduct:
“Exploiting other players is an equally serious offense. Scamming, account sharing, win-trading, and anything else that may degrade the gaming experience for other players will receive harsh penalties.”
If someone sets up characters to deliberately allow another character to gain an advantage, that’s definately a no no, whether or not you or anyone else thinks its ok.
Doing this helps everyone who is ranking.
Im not concerned with who it helps, I was responding with information regarding it being against the rules. People can take note of that or not, at their own risk, if they choose to.
This reminds me of medics reviving dead teammates in BF for easy kills
It’s neither and it’s not.
disgusting is what it is.
how you can defend this degenerate play is beyond me.
Well, Im not always up on the terminology but if its deliberately done then it would seem to be cheating, which is a word with a broad definition as far as Blizzard is concerned. If you arrange to have 3 players of the opposite faction each have a character die and rez at a particular graveyard and then sit your character there and repeatedly kill them over and over, that is obviously done for some specific purpose. The reason I made this post was to ask what that purpose could be because I wasnt entirely sure. I was then told it was part of the pvp boosting thing.
Now to me that seems an unnatural form of play since its obviously not intended. It was happening as I watched over an extended period of time and any normal player who had a character die there would find other ways to remove it from the location - such as just logging it off and waiting some time then trying again to rez and hearth. But the characters were active the whole time, and the level 1 Alliance toon was either a bot or someone with a very high tolerance to boredom.
Seems a sad way to spend your time playing a game.
echoing this.
or as my generation used to say… QFT
Except for the fact that Blizzard does not consider it to be cheating. Which has been discussed repeatedly by multiple people in this very thread.
Guess what? It grows the bracket . Benefits everybody. Hurts nobody
lmao
Mhhh, reminds me of something 
