Aoe fear that doesnt DR with fear itself that also heals for 20% of the locks hp.
Seriously stupid that it lines up the chain of being feared for 20 seconds. if scatter an trap cant be off the dr of each other then fear and mortal coil shouldnt either.
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it being a diff dr isnt a problem
the only problem is that destro is so disgustingly tanky that coils cd feels miserably short
it should be a short cd though
destro just shouldnt be the tank spec of wizards
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i just cant stand eating a instant aoe fear an then being spam feared with 0 counterplay. if it wasnt for that stupid coil i could fd/kick or line. but that ability itself is actually stupid. its like giving mages deep freeze that aoe stuns heals for 20% then allows the mage to spam poly.
Coil range is brutally short and yes if it wasn’t for coil you could have 100% uptime on the destro lock and use all your non damage abilities to avoid chaos bolts. Coil makes sure that you have to be semi careful and think half a step ahead instead of blowing everything on cd.
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thelle gave me some advice as a healer that your healer should dispell one of you to kick fear and the other person that comes out of coil kicks the chaos bolt.
now if we wanna talk about dumb drs, spriest vt fear dispell is probably the most annoying. 2.5 sec fear, into 3sec silence, into 3 sec stun, into gfade 5 sec fear. blah its gross
Are you running relentless cause I’m pretty sure it’s 4 sec silence/stun and 6 sec fear. Tbf though spriests in the past always had great control and defensive utility while having good sustained and basically no burst. Let’s buff other classes with more tools not Nerf the ones who have some
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I use trinket, so no idea i just know my addon is like 3 SECONDS OF SILENCE LEFT, 5 SECONDS OF FEAR LEFT
could be a matter of ms their side and it adding 0 sec as 1 sec
also not saying remove spriest stuff i just think that vt should dr with something cuz it doesn’t and it’s just so punishing to dispell a maledict just to get cc chained anyway off it
Ah ya it’s definitely 4/4/6. But if they’re combining all 3 it’s once every minute they do this cc chain. Could run relentless and just have your DPS cc/run from the spriests/other DPS while you sit it.
hmm I have tried it cuz I’ve been human but normally I see spriest run with destro or fire mage with a druid heal so the only thing I can really trinket is bash or psych horror. i’ll try relentless again when i face it
off that, any tips to help not suck? lol
It’s been in the game largely unchanged since vanilly. Little late to be crying about it.
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get a haircut, ur shaggy
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Or if you’re playing with something that can de curse, you can have them dispel the havoc before the coil goes off and only one will get the coil. Have to be pretty mindful of the cd though and that can be hard to do quickly enough since whoever it is may not be able to indefinitely save the global.
Slightly off topic though. My scatter and trap is on the same dr. Here we are discussing all of the classes with instant cc off dr, or classes with spammable cc that doesn’t share dr with its instant cc (ie being able to easily set up your own chain). Just doesn’t seem consistent for a class that has to play on cc chains.
I’m all for scatter being on the disorient Dr. I think that would be a great change.
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What comps are you playing. Do you see havoc go off and try to predispel it so coil goes off but your DPS doesn’t get coiled? Really messed up destroy.
Best idea imo. Some want to put it on its own dr, and I think that’s too much potential for one chain. Having it on disorient eats two trees which is a good compromise imo. That way you’re not eating a full fear or clone coming out of scatter trap.
I’ve played rmpala but normally haven’t fought against destro lock with that. usually they havoc and immediately coil when my mage is mid poly/pyro tho
Done tsg, walking dead, angelcleave, rlpala.
Your mages priority at that moment is to stop casting and dispel havoc. Poly and gp are spammable, decurse has an 8s cooldown. Dispelling havoc is negating a cooldown. Idk what to tell you to do with the melee cleaves though. I don’t think I’ve lost to many warlocks as twd or tsg on my dk since 8.1.
im not in this discussion dont care just sayin its a 8s cd for mages
Yeah I thought it was a cd when it dispelled a valid spell
This.
I understand OPs frustration though. As a MM hunter like OP, Destro already feels like it has 2-3x more win conditions against you and can blow you up at any time since we’re one of the only dps left that doesn’t tank or constantly self heal, but due to the match up they can literally just sit on Coil for trap attempts both completely derailing every kill attempt, healing at the same time and then just pulling out an UNO reverse card and bullying you behind a pillar on your own trap attempts. If you don’t run you’re just dead.
MM vs Destro teams is an incredibly frustrating matchup.