Something I've Noticed About These Forums

Some people come up with really cool ideas and then others seem to only exist to tell them how dumb their idea is. After a while, no one shares their ideas any more and only stick around to disparage others.

It reminded me of the monkey experiment, and for those not acquainted;

My question is. Why is it this way? Has it always been this way?

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Misery loves company.
That is literally the reason.

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They think being a butt is amusing.

Some will just come and say ‘no’ to my request for druid and dracthyr dynamic flight. Thanks dude, for bumping my thread. Now someone with proper arguments for a civil discussion can come!

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Hello, I see you posted a thread about the forums. Haha, one person’s great idea is another person’s dumb idea!

Thanks for your post and have a great day!

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I’ve seen this happen. Easier to criticize and jealous than come up with an idea.

They’ll pick it apart. I know these types personally when I made custom maps for games. I could write Lord of the Rings and draw the Mona Lisa
neither would be good enough, too pedestrian.

Think of how many times JK Rowling was declined by Publishers.

:ocean: :dragon: :ocean: :dragon:

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miserable edgelords ruin the discussion for everyone else.

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A classic one!

Same reason why twitter was all about arguing all the time and why I left [apart from other reasons], the internet is becoming a rather empty place that kind of breeds attacks on one another, venting, etc


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It’s mostly because no one knows how to have a proper conversation with one another and instead be miserable about everything and ruin someone else’s day over having an opinion.

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to be fair, your last “idea” is something which just isn’t needed.

about the only person it would benefit, is


hmm.

oh right.

YOU.

:crazy_face:

Just because you think something is a “really cool idea”, doesn’t mean that it actually is.

You’re asking for an NPC to be added, so you don’t have to take 15 steps to walk outside an instance.

most of my ideas which have been added to the game, haven’t had any replies at all.
they sink like rocks, but apparently still get seen by the people who need to see them.

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That example says that people do not have experience with what they’re talking about.
And if anything the problem with the playerbase is that they have too much experience, even more than a lot of devs when it comes to the game.

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it also says:
“monkeys can talk”
and
“monkeys are too stupid to tip a ladder over”

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Now I’m curious. What was it?

You’ve gone a long way to rationalize people simply disagreeing with you.

Consider your ideas may just be bad.

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Sure, folks come up with cool ideas and when asked the barebone criticism of those ideas the immediate response is akin to that one you provided here:
“Why must you be against it so much? Let me strawman you into oblivion for not immediately agreeing with my idea!”

Using the monkey-ladder analogy, a more accurate depiction of these forums would be the following:

The monkey ladder is a great analogy 
 but not so much in terms of folks opinions on GD but rather the people who face any reasonable counter argument, which then devolves into the use of strawmen arguments, ad hominen attacks, and a myriad of other aspects
And its usually done by the one “who posted that really cool idea”
The reason? What people considers a “really new and cool idea” on these forums generally speaking are things that have either a) been tested; b) already in the game (and OP’s lack of interest in it proving its not even desireable by them either); or c) have good explanations that users that spam the same tirade of “new opinions” or “new insights” over and over again simply doesn’t like

No, once upon a time GD wasn’t full of trolls and folks pretending to not be trolling but the game is over 20 years old and most folks who engage on social media has been raised to think that “trolling” is to some degree an acceptable behaviour online meaning that places wherein trolls have fewer and fewer self-regulating community members the more toxic and trollish the forums become

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They made another thread a couple of days ago wherein they wanted to add a vendor to Stratholme so they wouldn’t have to use a toy, a mount (not sure if Stratholme is mountable but still), or anything else like the personal vendors

And they pretty explicitly said “I have been farming” so they quite explicitly wanted it to be added to just benefit themselves not having to use any myriad of the other solutions available to 'em

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A lot of the ideas that this happens to are ideas that only benefit people who play the game in 1 specific way, and would have a negative effect on people who play in a bunch of other ways.

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Yeah, they’re also known as white-knights (they know who they are too)

They never have anything of substance to say, usually just a snarky one-liner. They have no interesting threads or posts to their name, it’s all generic “no” one-liners for the most part :joy:

Speaking of them, said posters are curiously absent from this thread
 so far :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

I suspect a large # of them are only subbed to the game for the purpose of using these forums too :laughing: When you pull up their armory these individuals have no notable achievements (including PvE, PvP, collections, etc) that would indicate they actually play the game regularly

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Depends on the great idea I guess. Lol

I’ve had some ideas before but they usually don’t affect many or do much for the game.

Usually I think of them when I’m doing something particular. Like I made a Tauren shaman and thought, “man I wish we had a moose ghost wolf form” and even thought to come to the forums to say it. But it’s just because I made that character that I’m probably not even going to play much.

So I get like 10 or 3 responses and that is that. Usually someone either finds something wrong with it or like a couple people agree.

Maybe the idea wasn’t that great. :sweat_smile::sweat_smile:

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Because most “ideas” just boil down to “buff my spec” or “give me more item levels”.

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