There should be some kind of automatic and severe punishment for leaving keys. I have had my key dropped 15 to 11 two weeks in a row by people who either dislike 1 pull or there’s a recoverable wipe that makes them cry.
I’m tired of having my keys dropped because people cannot handle adversity. give them a 24 hour ban from starting a mythic, or prevent them from joining parties or something. The uncertainty with which any group i have for keys is, the less i really want to play.
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Inc forum posters tell you its your fault they leave your keys, and these saints probably had to leave your game to save a baby from a burning building, after they volunteered at the soup kitchen.
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Your fault for not picking your key group better. You want success? You make it happen. Quit relying on others to make you successful.
They’ll be you next time around, no need to worry.
Maybe the game just needs to make staying worth it. Instead of punishing people, the game shouldn’t make you want to leave. Currently it gives lower ilvl loot, not gonna increase score etc for staying.
When I do keys for more score, why would I stay in a failing run? I wouldn’t.
Heck even if they gave you some sorta “failure’s bounty” and give you 2k gold for staying or something.
Right now a failed key just isn’t worth the time it takes to finish it.
This will age like very fine wine
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And it will be necroed when it is ready!
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You spend 45 min looking for people who have actually timed the key at the same or higher difficulty. you look for synergizing comps and ppl say “look harder” lol. No, there needs to be some kind of leaver penalty just like every other system. dude acts like that isn’t tried. “pick a better group” how do you? you can’t look at any metric that says “this person sucks and leaves every 1000 keys for 1 they complete”
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They should have implemented a similar system to that of the solo shuffle, you leave keys and you get a deserter debuff, cant join anything m+ for x amount of time, the more you do it the longer the penalty until you reach enough to where account action has to be taken.
A clear indication I dont want to play with someone, is zero untimed keys. If I happen to look at someone’s IO, and every single key they finish is timed, they 100% leave keys all the time.
Blows my mind this is somehow a GOOD thing to have on your IO. Zero untimed keys, as if that makes you look amazing. Its like people with excessive plastic surgery. All that says is this player is going to leave your key at any point they dont think it can be timed. Thats all it says.
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Its the fact I found their post to be complete irony. OP doesnt even do keys from any of the recent content and they only posted a thread about a topic that dozens of others have already made in hopes of getting lots of upvotes, trying to get in with whatever forum topic is FOTM. Thats why OP posted on a guildless level 10 alt of theirs.
This was their one and only forum post on that newly made toon. OP hasnt done a key for half a decade. Do you really think someone like that should be taken seriously?
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Im not sure what that had anything to do with what I quoted… You claimed it was their fault for not picking a better key group. Im not insulting you at all, im saying the comment you made will age in a way that it will bring more negativity to it. What you stated? whether OP does M+ or not, is toxic. There is no “BEST” way to pick a good key group, your going in blind, you cant trust rating anymore now a days with the carries being sold for gold. So the io, the in game rating. Its no longer a metric. You can pick someone whos 2400 io and is complete dog**** your not gonna know based off a number. Believe I brought this issue up in the past in other threads that this is the reason you dont tie a random number to anything in the game, because clearly no one has learned their lesson from Gearscore back in Wrath.
“Normal Naxx 25! 10K GEARSCORE REQUIRED!”
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I demand an application process that involves a background check, 4 references, 2 character references and fingerprints.
Oh and also Ilvl 20 lvls higher than obtainable.
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You are quite literally wrong. lmao.
There shouldn’t and likely won’t ever be.
Maybe they left because of you? Sounds like your the one creating the ‘adversity’ by your post. Im sick of dropping 2k worth of consumables to give a group a helping hand and they just die to noob mechs…I say ban those people for destroying keys. Stupid idea hey.
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I agree but don’t ever say there won’t. Squeaky wheel gets the grease, just look at solo shuffle now, bannable for leaving multiple times
If you make a punishment it will just take ppl out of queue. Why waste my time on a group that can’t do a +4 without struggling. I just stick to my designated guild group. You would hurt yourself without even realizing it. This is a non issue in all honesty.
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People don’t have the option of picking who they play with in shuffle.
There’s no leaver penalty for flex (or mythic) raids because it’s premade content, as opposed to LFR.