Some fresh ARM and M1 benchmarks

Added some new Dragonflight-PTR benchmarks for Windows on ARM devices (Snapdragons) and Apple M1:

  • https://rk.edu.pl/en/wow-dragonflight-ptr-and-classic-on-windows-on-arm-devices/
  • https://rk.edu.pl/en/resolution-and-graphics-quality-scaling-in-wow-for-apple-m1/

All other benchmarks are on https://rk.edu.pl/en/world-warcraft-shadowlands-beta-benchmarks/ :wink:

Very interesting. I canā€™t wait to see what the M2 chip is capable of.

Thanks for sharing your results.

Some linkification:

Itā€™s crazy how big the gap is between machines equipped with M-series and Snapdragons. The latter isnā€™t comparable at all. I donā€™t understand why Qualcomm is phoning it in so hard because clearly thereā€™s a market for laptops running full desktop operating systems that have amazing performance per watt. They even have a direct partnership with Microsoft for Windows an ARM, but still all they produce is SoCs that are total potatoes compared to M-series.

Iā€™ve run WoW on my work laptop (16" MBP w/M1 Pro) and while I wouldnā€™t buy it as a dedicated rig, it runs WoW quite respectably. With render scale set to 50% (because the internal screen is HiDPI) I can run around in Ardenweald on high settings with FPS solidly above its screenā€™s 120Hz refresh rate, and of course it can run Classic on ultra without breaking a sweat. The onboard GPU for the M1 Pro performs about as well as an RTX 2070 which phenomenal for the machineā€™s power usage.

Snapdragons are phone chips pretty much, just increasing clocks and doing minor changes. Apple designs their CPU cores pretty wide so that so for most common workloads they have an optimized path. This does however has a disadvantage for their biggest chips as the die size goes way bigger.

It was started by Microsoft as a failsafe when Intel released quad-cores with 5% improvement per generation and AMD was close to being bankrupt. AMD got back from the grave and now in 2023 and 2024 both companies will be releasing insane mobile chipsā€¦

Qualcomm has Nuvia designs and they did report a release of way better chips by the end of 2023 but itā€™s uncertain what will happen due to the lawsuit and their change in narrative with going into low volume high margin server products.

The short story is that you canā€™t make an M1 without dumping billions in R&D and having top-of-the-line engineers. Right now only AMD and Intel can do that. Apple is still rocking but they did have some brain drain so it will all come down to how well 3nm M3 will be - can they transition to true 2.0 arch with noticeable improvements?

And thatā€™s where AMD and Intel are going. With Intel Arrow Lake and AMD 7000 series there may be way more laptops without Nvidia in them :smiley: RTX 3060 will probably ā€œdieā€ at CES in January already.

Hopefully this becomes true in lowend-to-midrange prebuilt desktops too, because less of an Nvidia monopoly can only be a good thing. AMD saw a bit of an uptick in GPU marketshare last gen but Nvidia is still by far dominant.

I would not go as far as RTX 2070 as the performance.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-tested/3

Its the best integrated GPU.