Couldn’t they just reduce the cost of skills to compensate for the increased leveling speed?
40% increased quest XP… well, I’ve tried it now just for the Dwarf/Gnome starting zone and two notes:
- First time I’ve ever hit 6 before leaving a starter zone. That’s great because I’ve always felt the need to grind to 6 on the way to Kharanos since you have to be 6 to get one of the quests.
- Didn’t have enough cash to purchase all of my skills at level 6. I can only guess how badly that will scale, so I’m definitely going to have to skip a lot of stuff.
40% is just too fast. if they feel 25% is too slow i hope they compromise with 30%
25% is fine. I don’t wanna rush through the game so that’s a no for me.
Stop messing with the damn EXP rates because it seems like most of us are fine with it.
Talk to us about Class Balancing already.
Maybe it will just be like 1-30 25% buff / 30 - 45 40% buff / 45 - 60 55% buff who knows
It’s an improvement. 40% bonus to quests still equates less than 20% overall. Personally I think they should bump it it to 50%, so it would be closer to 25% overall.
Do the people who say 25% was fine (or too much) not realize that a 25% increase to quests equates to around 10% overall? You get more xp killing things for quests, dungeon runs, etc, than you do for the actual quests. 10% in the context of a timeline that is twice as fast is trivial.
But, with this level of increase they will definitely need to make some economic adjustments. Things like vendor costs they can easily address, but the AH is market-driven, so that may be tough or impossible.
Blizzard has touched on the lack of questing in the late levels, so I’m surprised we don’t have some kind of distinction with the bonus.
25% 1-50
40% 50-60
Or something like that because they really did abandon the last few levels of questing
SoM’s 1-60 xp grind using TBC xp schedule, which takes 5-7 days of /played, and 25% xp bonus shaves 10% off overall.
So leveling will take:
4.5 days to 6.3 days of /played
The point is that I specifically at that point had no other option in the way i was leveling, which was questing not dungeon grinding, but to grind mobs in blasted lands. To clarify i also mainly leveled thru rested xp past lvl 40ish. So there are gaps. I totally expect in SoM to have no gaps with this xp buff to quests.
Ah so the lack of money for buying spells is one of those byproducts that are unforseen until tested. That also implicates mount buying at 40 for classes outside of paladin and warlocks. Guessing a lot of ppl might struggle to make the 90/100 gold for the 40 mount.
Those aren’t new problems. Happened in classic vanilla and original vanilla as well. People will have to prioritize spells, gear, consumes, and play with a budget if they want a mount at 40. Increased nodes will help people somewhat, but this issue will always exist at launch. Might be turned up a notch, but people who want a mount right away will have to actually plan for it. There’s plenty of guides out there. HARD MODE INITIATED.
This guy gets it.
this is actually how I feel about it for the most part. At the Higher levels, even 40, you can earn the gold you need with not a lot of effort compared to lower levels.
I also want to touch base with one thing, this isn’t suppose to be a doom and gloom post, it’s just a question to the Devs on how this would help the player base with there season cycle. My Guess is that the devs might have to make sure every mob now would have to drop “more” stuff to compensate the accelerated leveling process from quests alone.
I would rather have the leveling the same as it was in vanilla, at least for the most part. I want the journey, not the destination… I mean if I was just playing for the destination, I would play retail… While the 25% increase I don’t really agree with, I can probably live with it… Having it at 40% would make me question even trying SoM. If there has to be an increase, just have it between 15-25%. I think that’s a reasonable compromise…
What level are you on the beta? Did you get to 30 at 25% And how much faster did you get to 30 at 40%?
25% increase is already too fast
I don’t see how Blizz doesn’t increase quest rewards. Players are going to be completing a lot less quests. Those little few copper or silver per quest add up to a lot. Good luck affording…really, anything. Every cost in the game was designed with a certain expectation of players completing a somewhat standard experience. There’s also all the quest reward items players won’t be getting that they either vendor for money or perhaps disenchant.
Yeah, it’s not as bad as buying a 58 boost and being complete broke with nothing…but players will be lacking. And with that lack comes…you guessed it, the need to buy gold. Consumables will be incredibly vital without world buffs. Those prices will be outrageous. BoE gear is going to be insanely expensive. With how fast content is coming out and players having much, much less time to accumulate gold themselves…it’s not a great situation.
So, Blizz really needs to increase quest rewards. Or reduce the price of certain things (mounts, for example). Also, I believe there was a Blue post that says this exp bonus doesn’t exist at 60 and you won’t be getting extra money for quest turns in. Why not? Give players incentive to keep questing even at 60.
But hey, I’m sure Blizz has considered the millions of ripple effects from a massive change like this. They’ve earned full confidence from the playerbase from their recent years of thorough testing and competent design.
You aren’t leveling 40% faster, you are gaining a 40% increase to quest exp exclusively. Which is often much less exp than what you get from killing mobs. So if I’m assuming 40% of total exp 1-60 is from quests then you are getting a bonus of 16% total exp from the buff. So we will effectively be leveling 16% faster. That’s really not that much. Of course, my math is based on the assumption that 40% of 1-60 exp is quests, it could be more or less IDRK.
edit:
Every 10% of total exp = 4% bonus. So if quest exp is actually 50% of the total that bonus would be 20%, if it’s 30% then its 12%, etc
Install guidelimes. You’re just flat out wrong and missing something. No need to grind out like that.
100% this. I did 4 level 60s in Classic Era, all questing 1-60 without dungeon grinds. 2 Druids, Mage, and Warrior. If you can’t find quests to do, that is your own fault. Even after questing to 60, you can turn on show quests via questie and there are still tons of quests left to do