SoM 2 PvP Leak; Will NOT Play!

Blizzard just wants to milk as much money as possible from every customer interaction and spin negative things in ways to look good on corporate reports every quarter. When you look at what they do through that lens everything makes perfect sense.

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IK this thread got bumped 3 months ago, but I still want to address this comment.

Yes to unchanged Seasonal.

No to a new non-seasonal unchanged server.

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Just relaunch one new 2019 classic era realm, this isn’t hard blizzard but I’m sure we need to make some changes to better accommodate the WoW token

Seasonal, yes.

New non-seasonal, no. BB is still “fresh enough” to be built upon.

Just need the fresh :baguette_bread: era servers are stale :bread::expressionless:

No, you don’t need a new non-seasonal server.

What makes BB “stale”? There’s no economy, here. No non-HC raiding guilds, no GDKPs, no boosting, etc.

All the “problems” most (not all) people have with “old” servers, doesn’t exist, here.

Even new servers (seasonal or non-seasonal) has to BUILD said economy, raiding guilds, community, etc.

So, again, what’s wrong with BB?

I have no interest in servers that aren’t actively progressing through the phases. I enjoy the experience of playing through the different phases as they unlock not interested in anything that isn’t fresh :baguette_bread::expressionless:

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Which why I make the distinction between seasonal and non-seasonal.

A new non-seasonal server may not even start at phase 1, but at the last phase, like all the other non-seasonal servers.

Which is why I find new non-seasonal servers, pointlless.

Seasonal is the only one that makes sense.

I see no real difference between new seasonal and fresh classic servers.

I do.

Seasonal is temporary. New non-seasonal are not.

Again, new non-seasonal may not even start on phase 1, like you want. It may start at the last phase, thus it’s NOT catering to your wish, here:

Not to mention, transfers from the “old” servers to the new non-seasonal server.

After the “fresh” hype is over, it’s just another abandoned server, Blizz has to maintain.

Unless, they’re going to do what they did in Wrath Classic and actually retire some servers.

Uh no, most people don['t have to do that… My buddy just got r13 playing 20 hours a week until 12, then pushed hard for 1 week.

link to the leaks?

The ranking system is garbage in vanilla. Ive had the same full time job with saturday and sundays off. PvPd constantly after work and those days off and could not get past 11 lol. Literally caters to people with no jobs or bots. It needs to change. Figure some way to still make it grindy but dont decay and make it doable for everyone in the game. Disabling pvp items in raids would be nice. I know some BiS items are in there, but there are also other options instead of those pieces.

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It’s always these suggestions coming from people who don’t know what they’re talking about.

Remove pvp gear from raids why? The only good pvp item in a raid is a rank 14 melee/healer weapon. Staff of shadow flame is literally better in pve. All of the sets except warrior are terrible in pve. Why “disable” them? Because you don’t have time to get them?

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Amazing change if so. I could get HWL without having to quit my job… most toxic pvp system ever

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Okay so… if there aren’t that many pvp items good for raid…. Would it be that crazy to make it a bit easier for people to obtain and just make them not usable in raid? Your point you are trying to make is flawed. Idk what I’m talking about? I’m sure I have more achievements in pvp related than you do buddy.

You are really going to back up a pvp system that causes people to play for 16+ hours a day to get that the bracket 1 slots? That is just pure degeneracy. I’m sure the majority of people who play classic as well have full time jobs/families. Is it such a bad idea to make it obtainable for everyone who plays? Enlighten me

Exactly. If we disable pvp gear in raids then people won’t be able to just sweep through raids easier with the weapons at the start. They can find a way to make it a grind still, but not impossible for most people. The unemployed people will rage at this post, but they can cry all the want.

Arbitrarily disabling pvp gear in raids is dumb. Part of vanillas charm is that gear is useable in every part of the game, raid gear can be used in pvp and pvp gear can be used in raids. There’s no dumb arbitrary stat like resilience messing things up. I don’t see why rank 14 being just for degens is a problem.

Also the raids being easy isn’t a problem it’s a feature.

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who really cares about the ease of raiding in this game? the problem with rank 14 in phase 1 isn’t ease of raiding, it’s having a 4-5 phase advantage over others players in open world, not on the meters

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