Just want to get the gauge on people’s thoughts on either adding flex raiding or 25/10 man as the default sizes for som 2? Also potential negatives if they did go for this over the standard 40/20 man raids.
Being an oceanic player this is partly a selfish desire but I do believe having smaller raid sizes will eliminate the harm that doomsaying seemed to cause on som1, people getting scared that their server/raid wasn’t going to survive and quitting on mass instead of trying to push through. Furthermore, having either smaller or flex raid sizes might help with class distribution trying to hit debuffs and buffs without being able to stack 20 warriors in a raid.
Personally I believe having people play the game outweighs the epic feel of a 40 man raid, I don’t dispute that having a full 40 man raid is pretty cool, just don’t think down the track it will remain realistic, especially for fellow oceanic players.
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25/10 man raiding is retail garbage
honestly, it offends me to even suggest it
not even joking 
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And why is that? Do you actually have a reason why?
I think flex raiding is the best change they ever made
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I’d never heard of it until a guildy was talking about it in a wrath raid last night, figured it would help a lot with som seeing as the population dying off was such a big issue. People would just quit when they couldn’t field a full 40 man, some would jump to other guilds but some would just flat out leave, and there goes 35 players who would of kept playing it the raid size limits weren’t so unrealistic.
40 man raids are what define vanilla, among other things
if 40 man raids are so unrealistic to you, how about you go play retail.
So you don’t have a real reason outside of how you feel?
my reason is just as valid as your dumb reason “wahh i can’t get 40 people together wahh”
Regardless of the size of the raid, you need to do the same mechanics, farm the same consumables, learn the same strats, I don’t see how it changes anything. Literally cannot think of a real reason why this wouldn’t help the game and the only pushback I’ve had has been no change Andie’s such as yourself, yet you’re happy for them to completely change raid mechanics and double the leveling speed.
look guys he called me an Andie
go
back
to
retail
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cry more about not being able to get 40 people together
I’m asking for actual reasons why this would not be beneficial to the server health of som 2. I see you have nothing constructive to input into the conversation, nor do you have any reasoning behind how it would negatively effect the game whatsoever.
I would invite people to comment on the post who actually have something to say, not just a bunch of nonsense and “GO BACK TO RETAIL” REEing.
because it would make raiding stupid
like it is on retail
And how would it make raiding stupid?
40 man > 25 man
if you don’t like 40 mans, you already have options to play, like wrath and retail
leave vanilla alone
Okay, thanks for another nothing comment on the thread. I’m looking for real reasons not just that it hurts your feelings etc.
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how about you give us a real reason other than “wah i cant get 40 people together”. i could get 40 people together just fine
Read my original post, it outlines all the reasons why, it would help bring down warrior/rogue class stacking with buff/debuff limits needing to be met, it would help smaller regions and servers field more raids and allow people to actually play the game and it would lead to less people quitting en masse because their guild dies for whatever reason, because they aren’t forced to find 40 committed Raiders each week, it is much easier to get a consistent 25 man playerbase than it is 40 people.
