[solved] The nerf to the 2-set for BM doesn't make sense

Classes Hunter
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Update: I understand now, I wasn’t thinking clearly about everything before I made this post. Please ignore.

Perhaps I’m not understanding how it works, but that nerf that went out that makes the Barbed Shot be at 100% effectiveness instead of 200% doesn’t make sense to me.

As far as I know this special Barbed Shot doesn’t stack with your regular ones. It doesn’t hit a random target other than your current target. So basically it’s just a regular Barbed Shot, right?

Well I never have an issue maintaining 3 stacks of Frenzy. I always have Barbed Shot ready to go when I need it to. So what’s the point of firing off a random normal Barbed Shot? At least the 200% did more damage. This just feels like a wasted set piece. All it does is refresh the duration of an ability that has a near 100% uptime already (barring fight mechanics). So the nerf doesn’t make sense, and it feels as if it was done by someone who doesn’t play the spec at all.

I could understand a drop to 150% or 125%, but at 100% effectiveness you’re just firing off a regular Barbed Shot at completely random times that doesn’t change literally anything.

Unless I’m not reading the set bonus correct and if so, please make it make sense.

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You have to factor in each Barbed Shot cast reduces the CD on Bestial Wrath, gives us better uptime on it which includes Piercing Fangs and Lead from the Front

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You also have to remember they buffed our flat damage by 5% to compensate and not make us as reliant on tier.

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In my ignorance, I forgot to consider the other things that synergize with Barbed Shot. I was only thinking of the DoT, Frenzy, and Thrill of the Hunt. I forgot about all the other things than can happen too. This makes sense now.

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Edit was thinking huntmasters call.

Been a long day.

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Are you sure about that? Every guide takes it, and you have it on your BM talent set up too.

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Umm… throwing away 6% crit for no reason??

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Oops I was thinking hunt masters call

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The other main issue with that is we used Barbed Shot so often (and proc outside of BW was random) that you quickly overwrote 200% damage with regular 100%.

So the Damage nerf component was very very small.

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It would be nice if they made barbed shot a rolling dot. Ao instead od overwriting they add together.

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That free barbed shot gives more chance to put up your serpent stings (off GCD) for bear to come in and rip peoples heads off with [Envenomed Fangs], its fine. This 2 piece ALSO gives frenzy uptime allowing you to spec out of [Barbed Scales] into [Serpentine Rhythm] which has amazing snergy with boar proc.

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