What I mean is, quantify “barely made a dent”…that could be a lot or little.
For PuG’s sure but I think it would be a boon to Guilds that have a single 25 man team. We have that issue right now for Kara and even more for Heroics.
DPS still have noticeably longer queue times than healers and significantly longer than tanks (upwards of 20+ minutes at times for dps, while healers rarely have to wait more than a couple of minutes and tanks get near-instant queues) and that’s with the automated LFD system. One can easily reason it would be even worse with TBC Classic’s lack of even the LFG tool it’s supposed to have
It depends on how you define retail. I don’t play retail but I did play Vanilla, BC, and wrath. I found it significantly easier to find groups for my dps alts in Wrath than BC or Vanilla.
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Waiting for tanks was still 1 hour + on average.
Aka it didn’t change much.
Dual spec as a way to fix the tank shortage would see AT MOST a 5% reduction in the average wait time for a tank for pugs. And it goes directly against the design of tbc.
Retail wait times is still 20+ minutes with over a half dozen other changes designed to encourage people to tank.
LOL I love numbers pulled from the ether to solidify an argument.
That was my personal experience in wotlk from tbc. Still took hours to get a tank. But I didn’t invest much time into building friendships back then to pug easier. That’s something I learned the first time around and I am now applying it to classic. It helps get groups, a lot.
Yes but the original post is stating lack of tank to be the reason needed for change. Its ridiculous to think that a solution already attempted in the past would have a significant effect, seeing as how modern wow still has consistent tank shortages.
I stopped playing at the end of wrath.
Was ‘paying’ people to tank ever tried after that?
By paying I don’t mean groups offering to pay tanks gold out of their own pocket.
I mean some sort of game built-in reward for people to tank 5 mans.
Yes. When in low volume bonus cache rewards would be added to the random lfg. Still in effect. About 1000g and other things give or take. But that’s only for the random system .
Still shortages in grouped content for the same primary reasons.
Tanks are not treated well.
Anecdotally everyone I know who refuses to tank says its because they are worried about getting flamed for not knowing everything.
Bruh even 25g a pop would be drastically better
The respec cost is there to act as a deterant to constantly changing specs AND a gold sink. It doesn’t need to be nerfed.
Ah yes, using actual history with the game as evidence is flawed logic
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