Solo Shuffle Update - January 6

[Mortalus-kiljaeden]

@Sylur-bonechewer

Healers shouldn’t lose 45+ rating when they’re doing 3x the healing as the other teams healers. It’s not our fault that some dps can’t burst (affi locks in particular) leading to dampening above 50%. Want a shorter que for damage, make it so healers don’t take a full loss that a damage dealer takes considering its up to the damage dealers to kill to score a win. Being held at the mercy of dps that can’t kill is literally not enjoyable. It’s the reason healers don’t want to heal this mess which then leads to long que times for damage dealers.

This a great point and a change that could be made to increase healer participation, since kills are often out of healers control, give them a less severe rating drop if the matches are lost but an equal rating increase if won. Just a thought.

[Dragoi-stormrage]

• Rating will be calculated per-round in games with leavers.
  • … gains and LOSSES will be scaled linearly based on the number of rounds completed.

This is unacceptable, LOSSES should not happen. Players either should gain or remain at their current mmr, do not punish other players for someone leaving.
Ex. Jeff plays 2 rounds out of 6 and happen to lose both of those rounds. 3rd round starts and Bobby who also lost (whom was the target and got desamated) leaves the game. Now Jeff (whom could have gone 4-2 or 3-3 possibly) is leaving the game with -CR and has a very bad experience.

@Kaivax

Beyond 10.0.5

Looking to the future, we’re actively discussing options we might take to incentivize more healers to queue for Solo Shuffle to reduce the queue time for the damage role. This includes ways to make Solo Shuffle gameplay a more fun, rewarding experience for healers. We do not have anything to share about that right now, but in addition to leavers, it’s a foremost concern for the team.

We’re also looking into improving the UI further for both those in-queue and those who are about to queue.

As a team, we’re excited about Rated Solo Shuffle and we’re looking to iterate and improve on it in future patches. Your feedback has been valuable and greatly appreciated.

This is all wrong → “incentivize more healers to queue”… You mean, incentivize dps players to queue as healers", because the healers that play in PVP are queuing, you just do not have many of them.
What you need to do is make the game more fun and incentivize players that have never healed or would have never thought to heal in PVP to give it a try.
Three things I believe are holding people back from this:

1. PVE Healers do not understand how PVP Arenas actually work.
2. DPS Players that rarely or have never played Healer might give it a shot if they didn’t get told they suck constantly. Of course they probably suck, they are brand new to healing and doing it in a very stressful environment.
3. Do not allow Healers to go down in MMR, either they stay at the current rating (for losses) or they climb. This by far is a huge incentive.

How to make Solo Shuffle more fun and incetivize more to play it?

1. Build a better UI at the start of each round for players to pick the kill target and allow the player to place their CC abilities (icons) on who they might/will CC during that round.
2. Remove Chat while in Solo Shuffle. Toooooo much toxic crap being said.
3. Each Title has an EPIC Mount and EPIC Transmog Set to go with it (NOT A PIECE, A SET!)
4. Put stuff in the cache boxes for winning that matters. People want EPIC Rewards. If I play 10 Solo Shuffle Games one night, one of those winning cache boxes should have something Epic in it. SURPRISE US!!! There should be 30 Solo Shuffle Mounts Available each Season. One guaranteed at each Title Level (with that complete transmog set) and all the others available upon cache box openings. If you play 100 solo shuffle games, you should expect to get all 30 mounts for participating.

PS. Why is this “Beyond 10.0.5”? You want us to stay playing this game right? Especially us DPS players that are turning Healing to try to help out our brothers/sisters from being in 30m - 1.5h queues. Trust me, the only thing keeping me here right now is this Blue Post showing hope.

[Supmanaga-barthilas]

@He-area-52

SS is officially saved.

I sat in a 2h24min queue to have someone just leave to save their mmr.

Thank you Blizzard.

So the 2h24 min queue is acceptable for you? Lol this is still a problem

[Òkay-tichondrius]

What’s bad is dps can go 3-3 or worse and gain rating. Healers have to go at least 4-2 or usually better to gain very little.
It’s so much easier to climb as a dps which is insane to me.

[Rolfdog-sulfuras]

it’s alarming you’d tell someone to not join into an activity they pay for at the chance they may d/c

[Sylur-bonechewer]

Yes, last night I went 5/1 gained 4 rating, the next game I was 2/4 and lost 65 rating lol and no matter how hard I heal it just doesn’t make a difference especially if dps can’t secure a kill.

[Shadina-gorefiend (Shadina)]

Being a healer is absolutely miserable in solo shuffle, and it honestly feels like the system abuses them the most because they are in such high demand. It shouldn’t be that way.

[Ibn-benediction]

ON GOD, i could kiss [Kaivax] and the dev team for this update! so happy to see this!!!

[Regenfall-tichondrius]

@Rolfdog-sulfuras

at the chance they may d/c

Everyone has a “chance” to d/c, but if my internet has gone out 3 times in a day I’m not going to join rated gameplay until it stabilizes.

So yeah, I will continue to tell people to not join an activity they pay for to ruin the experience of others. Just like I tell people with crying babies to not go to the theater.

Odd logic.

[Thunderclaps-bleeding-hollow]

Acceptable casualties to save this game mode.

[Rolfdog-sulfuras]

seems like a bad take, they pay the same amount as you do. at the end of the day it’s just a game. aren’t you playing to have fun?

[Unsouled-faerlina]

Can you please consider solo ranked bgs. There is already in game voice. Place people by mmr Would be really fun

[Òkay-tichondrius]

Wonder what they consider excessive so we can try and get as close to it as possible because of people like you

[Sylur-bonechewer]

Sorry but they can hardly handle RSS as of now, Rbg would be a disaster.

[Rolfdog-sulfuras]

they’d rather punish people for their poorly designed content rather than balancing the real issues in the game

[Elitedragon-lightnings-blade]

Now finally understand why there were so many leavers before, MMR is untouched when they left the games. and MMR is everything for climbing the ladder.

[Regenfall-tichondrius]

I mean people leave about 30% of my games right now. I’m used to it. I use this game mode to cap vault and mess around, it isn’t a serious bracket.

[Zacksmom-zuljin]

if you get screwed by your internet, thats on you, not blizzard.

[Rolfdog-sulfuras]

exactly right, punish the people who d/c and leave over balancing their game. maybe they can force all the casters to just reroll into <insert melee class (just not pally)> or quit the game entirely.

[Sylur-bonechewer]

Another idea to insensitive healers is that healers don’t lose rating, we either get hard stuck at a current rating or we climb, again it’s not up to the healers to score kills that’s the damage dealers job. Dps should be the ones climbing and tanking.