Yeah this is what’s making me want to quit again more than anything else.
Solo shuffle is good but the meta is garbage, I hate the gameplay and it reflects in how dead the queues can get throughout the day.
Idk maybe I’m just outgrowing WoW lol, there’s so many good games out there and I feel like I’m wasting my time on this one when I know it’s not going to get better.
Lol dragon fart. Good one.
This. People are so delusional when it comes to solo shuffle. Some like they didnt play any expansion like shadowland and before, some how in their mind that 3s and 2s wasnt almost died in shadowland. This isnt 2008, wrath just come out and pvp was new and exciting anymore…
if solo shuffle didnt give rewards such as titles and cosmetics 2s and 3s would still be alive
but dps enjoy pretending that theyre high rated, competitive pvpers. the delusion that the mmr system is hyper inflated and rigged to boost ape dps goes right by their head
and to be honest probably the majority of those on these forums are included in that description. you simply dont care that the factually mmr system not only is rigged to favor but its hyper inflated to the point that 3k RSS lobbies have peak 2400 arena players. 2k lobbies have 1500 players. and you just dont care that its a canyon of difference
Lol incels
Solo shuffle saved wow pvp if you ask me. A lot more average players are willing to queue shuffle than were willing to sit in lfg for hours trying to get arena teams. It’s also forcing entirely new concepts on people by making an actual system out of ranked play with comps that you didn’t set up beforehand.
It really is impacting the 2s and 3s bracket, but I think that’s really more of a reflection of how much of a breath of fresh air this type of format is in comparison to what we’ve had to choose from in the past. I think that regular arena LFG needs to be further improved where you can also queue by yourself there with a checkbox of specific specs that you’re willing to play with, and be able to be in those queues at the same time as shuffle.
There was a point in time where creating relationships with other people was what made this game unique. That’s no longer a novelty and people don’t necessarily want to have to form relationships to play the game. There’s obviously still a huge place for it, but in terms of your average person that just wants to play, that system is the drawback.
Remove the rewards from the solo, because you were only concerned about the problem of choosing partners. Or it will turn out that you are hypocrites here.
A new bracket was created that people would rather play… It’s why 2’s/3’s is dead so Let me fix the title for you “Solo Shuffle killed 2s/3s”
Solo shuffle saved pvp, its the only reason its not a dead season like Shadowlands season 4 was.
Players are sick of LFG arena, they would rather go PvE raiding than back to LFG arena.
so were appealing to the skilless masses and rewarding their inability to climb 2s/3s ladders and stamp it with the scapegoat that LFG gatekept them from succeeding
top it off by rigging a mmr system to boost dps thus inflating their rating artificially
if yall were parents you would give out participation trophies at every sporting event
You’re honestly turning into a meme with this level of elitism… assuming you aren’t trolling.
holy based +1
Well, that’s because finding partners to push with requires linking a 2400 exp achievement at 1400 cr. Elitism, not RSS, ruined 2’s/3’s. RSS just made it visible.
If it meant having active sports teams instead of a desolate field, then yes, I would. You can go have fun in the empty bleachers. Maybe see if you can sit next to that guy who peaked in high school and keeps reliving his glory years. You can tell him all about your “glory years” in WoW PvP! I bet your mom would be so proud.
PVP is great right now, don’t be a buzzkill.
all solo shuffle did was expose the issue of people dying way to fast to everyone and put it on display in a more transparent environment. solo shuffle would actually be great, a massive boon for the pvp community if people werent dying in less than 10 seconds. BFA with all of its issues had more activity because it wasnt so unforgiving and frustrating, no one likes dying so fast that you hardly have time to react let alone counter.
tone down burst and dump some of it into sustain, get rid of micro damage buffs like colossal smash on every class (keep it to a few who have had it for over a decade) and delay damp by another minute or two and you will see people specially healers want to engage now. Hell a good healer or dps could actually save the weak link on the team with good peels and counter pressure/cc.
(OT side not not directed at the OP, it is funny to see all the boosted healers struggle and complain about solo shuffle when they have to pick up some more team responsibility after they were riding the back of healer power for years compared to dps output wise.)
No it dosen’t. People use this excuse way to often. Admit it you’re just being lazy / scared of joining LFG. OR maybe too bad and people ditched you after 2 games.
Healers wont que for solo because it works against them. There is no reason to que for solo as a healer because you can win 4-5 matchs and still lose rating, you usually end up at 3/3 win loss and get no where after wasting your time, meanwhile dps get lots of rating. Not sure how to fix it, but they could do 3v3 dps only to help relieve the long waits.
lol @ ‘ruined 2s/3s’
shuffle just showed how few players really want to do manual matchmade arena
answer: almost nobody
and slands only had a bigger pvp base when pve players could use it to get mythic raid gear with paid carries
as soon as they took that away the slands rated base dropped to 1-2%
it was such a disaster, partly because of redonk power deltas, that bliz added shuffle so rated participation would increase to any meaningful number
shuffle is now about 700% more popular than 2s/3s
nobody is missing 2s/3s except a statistically insignificant chunk of players - and they are likely a lot of the same players that made grouping for 2s/3s an exceedingly unpleasant experience for tons of players
Fix it by not losing so much.