Solo shuffle and 3v3 tier list

[Amyrii-echo-isles]

@Luke-icecrown

what are the 2 best comps in the game?

Ret/war and warrior/DH

[Luke-icecrown]

im ngl chief, i heavily disagree.

[Doritoxd-sargeras]

@Bubblebuddyy-tichondrius

Sp isn’t bad. But is not great either.

People have this false ideology that SP is bad because of no mobility when in reality it’s the fact that sp players don’t know how to move their characters

When I fight wizk or the russian booster sp they legit kite all game trying to drag us into bad positons, no other sp does this even though it’s really insane.

@Bubblebuddyy-tichondrius

Yea but at least outlaw isn’t getting 2 trinkets in the same go every other setup

it 100% is, while also doing 100k dps all game just not having access to duel makes it 1% less cringe then sub.

@Bubblebuddyy-tichondrius

Destro is insanely strong for ladder but vs good teams it’s a lot easier to counter than arcane demo boomy if you just download a havoc weakaura.

A lot of things are easy to counter with weakauras, what’s not easy to counter is portals doing 100k dps to you through pillars, a weakaura isn’t stopping that.
Also the fact every lock spec is now immortal with port being a 15 second cd and having more armor now it’s just not a real kill target anymore

@Bubblebuddyy-tichondrius

is this ww bias because disc fw are really powerful

Not at all, maybe FW in shuffle is better but def not 3v3 considering it can only play 1 comp and hpal has infinite. disc is pretty good but in a meta like this i’d say bops and 1 minute sac has a lot more value then anything else.

[Elfindre-tichondrius]

thats the one thing ill never master. then than then, we talkin in single context why does it change ya know?

[Elfindre-tichondrius]

uh u mean ret war fist. and uh/dh is much stronger so

[Elfindre-tichondrius]

same

[Glowrss-barthilas (Glowrss)]

@Amyrii-echo-isles

Ret/war and warrior/DH

No shot.

AWC is at the end of the month and I’d be willing to bet you either don’t see either comp full stop, or that it’s only being played by one of the feeder teams that gets knocked out early.

The only melee cleave comp that’s gonna see any real play is likely to be walking dead. Otherwise it’s just gonna be a ton of boomy/sub or caster teams.

Neither ret/war nor DH/Warrior is doing anything on the current 3s ladder either. The only time you see ret/war is when vanguards is playing it.

Tier list looks pretty accurate to me tbh. The only solace I take in subrogue being in unfair tier is that the unwashed masses can’t really play sub to any reasonable degree of success. Spec does require you to be good at it to do well.

[Darthauz-wyrmrest-accord]

People really basing their opinions off 1400mmr shuffle.

Can’t wait for another double caster AWC with a sprinkle of RMP.

[Doritoxd-sargeras]

@Bubblebuddyy-tichondrius

Sp outside of splay is mid. People who say sp is bad are delusional.

had to see if this was true or not so I qued with an SP

[Kennie-malganis]

Hmm. That seems to be at least playable.

[Doritoxd-sargeras]

At least semi playable

[Bubblebuddyy-tichondrius]

@Doritoxd-sargeras

so I qued with an SP

brother it doesnt matter what third you play with ww rdruid x

the comp is auto A tier

[Doritoxd-sargeras]

I was playing with someones 4th alt rdruid who mains warrior and ret LOL, i could play with shaz and do just as well if not better.

[Bubblebuddyy-tichondrius]

@Doritoxd-sargeras

i could play with shaz and do just as well if not better.

Yea ww sp is a good comp and its prob better than ww enhance. Prob top 3 sp comp .

Still. Any third with ww rdruid x is auto A tier.

if u Replace the sp with an arcane mage or destro or boomy or undk the comp is instantly 1.5x better

[Doritoxd-sargeras]

I actually think ww sp is ww’s second best comp behind wwdk, the synergy with sweep + stun silence + incap + tigers lust to get fear is just so good, I didn’t know sp could do 200k dps either till i played with enviyon so people are just dying all game outside of go.

[Bubblebuddyy-tichondrius]

@Doritoxd-sargeras

I didn’t know sp could do 200k dps either till i played with enviyon

Can u link the build envyion was playing

[Doritoxd-sargeras]

No clue what build he was playing, he was on this char tho https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/sargeras/envyion

[ßubblebuddyx-tichondrius]

@Exalter-malganis

Fury isn’t bad.

fury is awful lmao

@Compensation-darkspear

So either way you are f’d. I guess you have to attack the loc

nah going lock is troll. Need to perma LOS/cc the lock as much as possible while nuking feral in goes and then go back to lining the lock.

@Cantpossibly-tichondrius

Many high ranked players don’t put much consideration into lower brackets

thats because everything is S tier in low ranked brackets because no1 knows how to play the game.

@Compensation-darkspear

he does 20% more damage on everything

more like 80% more dam

@Myrtardradys-aegwynn

Sub still cancer?

when is it not?

@Luke-icecrown

what are the 2 best comps in the game?

rmd and demo rdruid ele(or demo rdruid boomy )

@Amyrii-echo-isles

Tier list should reflect everyone

tier lists dont matter at low ratings everything is S tier when your competition doesnt know how to play the video game. This doesnt just apply to wow.

[Nasrajin-sargeras]

@ßubblebuddyx-tichondrius

3s

Id move ele down to “A” tier and Destro lock up to “S” tier. Id also bump up Spriest a full tier. It may struggle in some MUs, but i swear sp+ww, sp+rogue, and sp+ww are all bonkers rn with sp+dk/dh being solid.

@ßubblebuddyx-tichondrius

shuffle

Id argue that boomy is more unfair in shuffle than sub, possibly warlock as well.
Boomy is the best shuffle spec in the game IMO.

[Xeraphin-stormrage]

Only thing I would change is Frost mage to A tier for solo shuffle IMO. Had 3 people blow up from 35% health in under 1sec the last couple days. They were in that “okay I need to get heals on them now” phase but not the “Oh SH%&!!” phase but they blew up anyway. Frost mage burst seems pretty oppressive to a mode where voice chat isn’t a thing.