Solo Progression Makes Sense

[Saliashra-sargeras]

@Narunith-area-52

So, the stuff from the Covenant is 197, which is on par with M+/CN LFR loot. However, it takes a lot longer so I am fine with that. I doesn’t sound like it’s a case of “OMG Solo player gets M+ loot” if it takes us a while to progress through the story and earn the anima. It’s a far cry from “run a quick WQ and get the loot” in BfA.

@Komarimono-wyrmrest-accord

Currently solo progression offers gear and items just a smidge below Heroic Progression. I personally think this is fine, for the content available for those who refuse to group.

I think the main issue is, they want more content now, instead of waiting for the Patch. Not going to happen, and when next raid tier comes, solo loot progression will rise as well in that patch that brings the next tier level.

@Jalen-emerald-dream

Right but my question is again, how far do you think the solo progression should go? Like what, Normal raiding ilvl? Heroic?

To kind of address all of these posts. There are kind of three different points being made in this thread by three different kinds of players(who knew, there are a lot of different solo players with a lot of different needs! ;))

1. “There just straight up isn’t enough soloable content”
   Some players just want something to do solo. Most players would like something to do solo, really. Some are just more reliant on it than others.
   Blizzard, this expac, has done an awful job of making content that is engaging to do on your own. Callings are bland and dry, alt leveling kinda sucks, past expansion content isn’t soloable, The Maw is garbage, and Torghast has no rewards really at all beyond the first time you do it so there’s not much motivation to do it, etc.
   For these players, they just really feel like Blizzard has left them stuck. They have nothing to do at all, and they’re finding it hard to want to log in.

2. “I want my time to mean something” - Some solo players are lamenting that most of what you get is just kind of dropped in your lap. There’s no feeling of really building towards something, just a boring grind during which occasionally you get items.
   This group intertwines with both of the other two camps and is a pretty good bridge between 1 and 3. They feel like the content is dry, and they also feel like the rewards you get become meaningless too quickly. They’re having trouble motivating themselves to play because they just feel like there’s nothing to work towards.

3. “I want challenging content with appropriate rewards.”
   This group is the primary group I’d originally made this thread to point to, but I’m glad so many others have resonated with my point here. This group wants an ACTUALLY challenging solo or small group experience that they can use to build towards real rewards. Something akin to a solo version of mythic+. Maybe not QUITE as high ilvl, but in the general range of both difficulty and rewards of what m+ offers.
   They want to have a set of truly challenging solo content that can push them to their limits AND reward them with gear to help them push themselves further. The same type of progression cycle that every other type of player in WoW gets.
   Do content to get gear to unlock more difficult content to get better gear.