See previous reply, He of the Magnificent Hat
197 ? That’s like M+5 dungeon drop. Blizzard please nerf convent gear to 184 only !!
What a bunch of "leet " crybabies. Big Bad Solo players might get gear as good as them.
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Bad players shouldn’t be getting rewarded.
You get gear competitive to normal raid gear by doing random bgs where you can lose 100% of the time in WG and bomb people in a tank and still get basically the same amount of honor as winning. Im 5/10H (not further because the gear sucks), im doing 10-12s with a 900 raiderio IO, and a 1600 rating. I am only 210 and anyone who actually plays the game should be 200 with the 197 gear + legos + unrated gear. If you are still running around at 180, then you are just not playing the game. 10 ilevels!
That is such an unbelievable fair gap between casual and moderately good, if anything that is unfair to me. I don’t know why you people seem to think everyone is 220+. To be that high they couldn’t even be mythic raiders (even 4-5 full clears wouldn’t yield that much given the drop rates). They will be some combination of Mythic raiders, high key M+, and most likely, 2100+ pvpers. And you are asking for a gearing system that keeps your closer to those people (i.e exactly the same gear as me). Get stuffed. Get absolutely stuffed.
Not everyone likes to repeat the same thing over and over. Been there done that.
Cope harder.
Get better at the game/your class and maybe your criplling faults wont scare you away from hard content?
Or just be the bigger person and accept that if you dont do the top most content, you wont get the top most gear.
Stop crying on the forums that you want mythic nath gear from basic questing.
Then why are you even playing WoW?
It is literally doing the same stuff for months at a time.
So. MMO massively multiplayer online . Doesn’t say anything about raiding or m+ or pvp.
All it means many single players need to be online simultaneously.
Many have already quit , others have stopped playing.
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You don’t get your way so you call out other players as leet crybabies. Why, because they actually earn their gear. I’m a solo player and am fine with what gear I have. But then again I don’t try and get high level gear to gank noobie players. Why are you so intent in driving new players from the game. I’m happy with what ever gear I get. It still keeps the game a challenge for me. Without the challenge I wouldn’t be playing. And anyone that thinks that one hitting things is fun then it just shows your maturity level. If you want to have the better gear then earn it. Otherwise be happy with what you do get. There are options to playing WOW. And if you’re not happy you can always unsub. But that isn’t an option for me. WOW is prescribed therapy so I have to play. But then my playstyle allows me to find fun things to do without dealing with a bunch of drama. I read a post by one player that all they liked is fishing. So basically all they need to enjoy the game gear wise is a fishing hat and a fishing pole. They can stay in WOD in their garrison and fish all they want. There are things in the game I enjoy. It doesn’t require the best gear and I’m happy with the gear I get. I found a way to play that gives me enjoyment. And as a solo player that is all that I need. The gear I get is what I’ve earned, if I wanted the better gear I would put in the work to get it. But I don’t need the better gear to enjoy the game. Being overgeared for what I’m doing just makes the game less fun. I love the challenge, just don’t like doing the end game stuff. That is my choice and I don’t disrespect anyone that likes doing the harder content. That is how they like to play and what they enjoy. I never see one of them disrespecting me for how I want to play. After all at the end of the day it is only a game. It isn’t going to put food on the table. It isn’t going to put a roof over your head. It is just a game to escape realitiy for a little while and have a little enjoyment.
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Keep telling yourself that.
“Hard Content” was Molten Core and Blackwing Lair, when it would take a year and a half to gear up a guild. The rest of it is routine, repetitive, don’t step in the purple, and lots of no-life angry people
It certainly does seem less friendly for the casual “solo” players.
Everything about this expansion seems to be “nudging” players into guilds/premade groups. It’s subtle, but noticeable…
Legion
- abundant loot with titanforging, you could get a decent iLvL just from doing whatever
BFA
- mostly abundant loot (titanforging removed towards the end), you were Normal iLvL in no time “just for logging in”
- on the PvP side, you could farm up to Heroic item level (460) just from casual/unrated bgs alone… never had to step foot in an arena
Shadowlands
- loot in short supply, you now have to “work” even for Normal iLvL… actually, slightly less than Normal (197 versus 200)
- unrated bg gear “tops out” at 197, unrated conquest gear “tops out” at Normal (200)… a considerable downgrade from BFA’s freebie “full” Heroic item level conquest sets
Of course, coordinated/guild/premade groups have always been more successful - but there’s no denying that the “haves versus have-nots” gap is pretty big in Shadowlands.
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Why are you playing an MMORPG if you don’t like repetition?
No they shouldn’t. Not in this game. This game has always had a ladder to climb. That’s why it keeps going and the end game content is still challenging and popular.
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Ahahahahahahahahahaha
Pretending that something is harder just cause it took longer to gear 40 people than <25 is just hilarious.
The hardest part was making sure everyone was geared and getting them there. The content is easy. Something that takes longer isnt necessarily harder. Its just takes longer and feels awfully grindy.
Thats like current SL normal nathria. Its not super hard. Gearing just take forever to do if you arent pvp’ing. That doesnt affect the difficulty of the content at all.
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Exactly, and this is why gear should be easy. The challenge is reduced once gear is available.
Whether you like it or not gear will be made available to all. Just so you know. Once 9.1 comes around Nath gear has to be made irrelevant. So the ilvl from 9.1 will be dropping i235 or more from solo content.
This is why its a sham about gear.
I’ll play whatever and how ever I want. I don’t play anything other then wow. I am allergic to repetitive WQ’s too, I only do them to complete the campaign, get anima and Torghast for the soul ash It’s silly that WQ’s have to be repeated. That’s why so many are complaining. They want new, not old rehashes. Things get old hat.
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The hardest part was getting 40 people online at the same time and able to spend 4 hours on a dungeon.
Though that having been said, it’s blindingly hypocritical of helmarolyn to try and praise the effort and requirements of vanilla raids while bleeting about how entitled she is to current raid gear.
Its not a sham. Its a perpetual cycle of gear steadily incfeasing to match newer content design to be more difficult.
And the cycle will continue with people crying they cant get the next batch of high end gear from doing world quests.
It called character prgression. Its important to progress as content arrives. Thats ehy its okay nath isnt important for progression once 9.1 hits. THATS THE POINT. Old content shouldnt be your direction and goal for the best progression. Current content should.
Oh baloney. See it once seen it all. I like the story. I want to see what happens.
The word is Formulaic. It’s like sitcoms or soap operas, very formulaic.