Our heals are not that good and eat huge amounts of mana. We don’t have low cooldown pvp full heals or shields like paladins.
resto sham is strong as hell
well enh will depend on upcoming runes and of course talents. i assume they will be loads better with just windfury mh rb oh.
ret does a lot better cause they got major love with instant attacks and yet theyre still in the realm of enh dps, just a bit higher. enh has more room to grow than they do.
Not really. All melee are within the same realm of each other more or less, with two exceptions: Warriors, who have deviated ahead of the melee average; and Shamans, who have deviated behind.
Otherwise, all other melee are within the same realm.
nah, feral war rogue and hunter are in one cluster, the hybrids are in another. feral technically is a hybrid but the specs you run for PvE pretty much eliminate any hybrid utility aside from brez if its needed.
What are you basing this on?
Melee Hunter is beneath Ret right now, and the gap between Enh and Ret is wider than the gap between Ret and Feral.
Warriors and Rogues are in a tier of their own, sure.
they give us shields, eearth shield and water shield but both shields have only 3 orbs making the shield very weak btw, the class rn is broken on the bad way not in positive side, is great class for a alt char as main miss alot of stuff that others classes can do, shaman need some kind of heroic leap or death grip need shocks not sharing cd need hex on 30 secs cd molten blast range need increase range u have litery to glue to the targets to get hit, that sucksssssssss!!!
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Depends on the percentile and boss but across all percentiles rogue and warrior hold #1 and #2, war at the highest and rogue below 80th. War is really only an outlier for full on parsing groups.
If we’re talking about a good benchmark I use Kelris because all of the high parses are players who didn’t go down and he has enough HP that you aren’t going to get 15 second kills. Paladin is below melee hunter at every percentile
enh is also the lowest but again enh doesn’t have its kit yet. the 10% hit is just a bandaid fix.
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Hmm Kelris feels like an outlier to me for benchmarking Enh performance tbh because this is pretty much the only fight we aren’t throttled by threat because he mind blasts based on proximity and we regularly get to press our otherwise “no-no” button called Earth Shock at the highest spell rank in both phases of the fight.
enh still performs like crap on it lol.
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I’ve talked to a few geared enh shaman tanks and they have all pretty much said that they are rolling every other class rn. They said the people who are saying shaman is trash are noob or don’t have gear.
From my own perspective they are the absolute beefiest pvp class to go against and their shocks hit hard af. Have to tab off to kill stoneskin totem every time bc it is just so strong against melee. Surprisingly, I’ve also seen some elemental shamans able to hit hard extremely hard in wsg.
Shamans are not bad at all in pvp but I see a case being made for pve shaman damage needing help for sure
too many play it so i dont see a problem.
The population imbalance tells you all you need to know. The only spec that plays well is enhance tank and they are terrible on caster bosses. Hopefully shaman get brought up to paladin levels or paladins brought down to shaman. Either way it would help with the population imbalance.
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they arent in the realm. Lmao. They exist at the mean and enh is standard deviation BELOW the mean. But hey maybe that’s how you assess data “eh they look close nuff”
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Not really, you just need to DW and ditch the shield. It’s more than serviceable.
yea i remembered them being closer but after rechecking theyre def on the bottom
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Use rank 1 earth shock and water shield on bosses. I never run out of mana.
Very important blizzard really needs to see this. Ele will need a Ton of help at 40 couple runes could change that ie instant cast ghost wolf removing all slows, thunderstorm 15 sec cd, earthbind root like wrath, hex , if we do not get at least one or two of those we will just be punching bags for melee. The wishlist is hot garbage for shamans right now. We are forced to run a rune that makes us gimped vs ranged ie no ranged interrupt anymore to even have a chance vs melee. Cause us to also lose to casters just man I hope they got someone with some PvP wisdom at bliz
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Or even the stone claw bubble shield from wrath would help anything that is PvP related 2h runes a joke recall totems a joke summon earth ele is a joke all the wishlists on wow head for shaman are HORRIBLE compared to others
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Finally someone who understands
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