SOD is popular because they're fresh vanilla servers

No new friend, it just shows you didn’t actually play.

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It’s difficult to swallow something that isn’t true.

Classic had the nolayer/layer controversy going on that distorted the queues…

SOD had layers from day one…

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What makes SoD/Era so popular is that it’s not retail. Pure and simple. There’s a laundry list of things that makes it appealing. It doesn’t need fresh servers or gimmicks. The whole reason Classic started was due to people’s disdain for retail.

There’s many pros as to why people wanted Classic and many cons as to why they grew tired of retail. It doesn’t need to get more complicated than that.

And Vanilla was popular, just not sure what your comparison is to. More people have more access to PCs so player bases have grown exponentially since 2004. Heck, look up all the old montage videos and you can see what people were playing on then. :rofl:

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Blizzard has explained this, dozens of times. Layers are not pop. Layers do not effect the que. They have only increase server cap one time, by 1k, during early c-19. Layers effect players currently all ready online and their distribution. There was a VERY small delay in the first hour or two because of it yes with the base rush into zones but it was let through very fast. That was self controlled and not layers.

Fairleina and herod had ques over 100k for almost a month. It was insanity. Even fairbanks broke 60k on launch day. No. Nothing has come close to c-19 launch for classic re-launches yet. It did close to new xpac retail numbers and honestly before they broke census ,looked like it WAS doing retail numbers at a little over 3.4 mil players at peak.

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(X) Doubt.

What no, era is bad. Vanilla does need fresh. That’s what makes it fun. That’s what the community that PUSHED for classic to begin with did over and over. That was the entire core movement, pserver fresh chasers upset that servers couldn’t live to get naxx out and tired of dealing with MASSIVE corruption.

You can say Vanilla needs fresh all you want yet many Era servers have been thriving since 2019. Does having things like SoD make it more enticing? Absolutely. But if they opened another fresh Era server, I wouldn’t play on it. What would be the point when I already play on an Era server? What an odd take.

Wrong. Loving the changes

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Private servers say you’re incorrect.

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Great, sounds like fresh vanilla projects are not for you. Stop playing and commenting on them. They have nothing to do with the museum server experience offered on era.

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I’m pointing out the fallacy of your vision. You’re suggesting SoD is popular because it’s fresh which is not the case. People are here to see what changes they are adding and are enjoying things of that nature.

If this did not have any seasonal stuff, no one would be here and would still just be on their servers. Let’s not be purposefully obtuse on this point.

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I would have never come to play Vanilla fresh servers. So you’re incorrect.

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Facts cause these runes are honestly refreshing cause they’re later expacs that made playing some players way better in classic also even tho half of them are overtuned but they just keep throwing nerfs at hunters :rofl:

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No, that’s your opinion. Stating things like “no one would be here” makes your entire argument based on fallacy if you wanna go there. A mass generationalzion ruins your whole base because you will ALWAYS be wrong.

Not to mention you just are here, period. Retail players as always trying to minimize every other group and maximize their own. Stay in your lane.

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Except that this isn’t simply a fresh set of servers and is season, which makes my point valid. You have no example of this whatsoever thereby invalidating your view. I can also point out that several people in this thread corroborate that they wouldn’t simply play on a fresh server.

I know it’s difficult for you to comprehend since you think people are playing SoD because they are fresh servers, but I just post on one character to keep it simple.

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retail players? bro I play all forms and have the time. Its new content “kinda” runes are just round about enchants with skills/passives from later expacs nothing actually NEW. Completely overtuned like druids starsurge/sunfire or meta locks being unkillable from just having better gear and life drain still working past death cause they cant code if their lives depended on it

If fresh #nochanges Classic had been released, I couldn’t have cared less.

I, and the friends I play SoD with, are here for the runes, level bands, reworked dungeons, and potential of unreleased areas at some point. If anything, I think more changes should have been made to SoD to make it more palatable.

Believe me “oh look, fresh Vanilla servers” never crossed my mind when looking into SoD.

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The only reason I’m playing sod is cause it’s fresh and is still basically a classic server. Even though they’ve changed much, it still feels classic enough for me. I wouldn’t be playing otherwise. I wasn’t even hyped for runes, I just wanted fresh.

The fresh formula works, and I’d argue most people who are against fresh won’t be around when raid sizes increase to 40

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I skipped Vanilla, BC, Wrath re-releases. I’m only here for SoD.

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