SoD has ruined guild cohesiveness

I like 10 man raids but I think 20 man are better just in the fact that you can bring more classes to the raid without hurting your “META” that much. 40 man raids are objectively just the worst thing ever conceived, there are too many players in a space to add any meaningful mechanics to a boss or have any depth to the fight encounters. That said, I think it’s fine to have 1 off 40 man raids such as Onyxia, because we all know that the 10 best players are going to be the ones killing it anyways while the other 30 mess up mechanics.

I’m the co-GM of an AOTC retail guild that has gotten AOTC every tier since BFA & run a raid team in SOD within a large guild.

I organize raid rosters for both. I even organized an additional mythic raid team for a tier with my retail guild on top of the AOTC team.

I know what I’m talking about. It’s a leadership issue.

It may very well be… but that is just another reason why people like 10man raids over 40. There isn’t a need to ‘lead’ 39 other people, or get officers to help out. It doesn’t add enough to the gameplay or overall enjoyment of the game for enough people to justify it still being created in such a way.

my guild has been doing 40man and 25man raiding since classic launched and it feels like 10 man only raiding is starting to kill it.

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SoD has ruined… everything. just… everything… is there one small morsel of classic left that can be salvaged? i don’t think so… :cry:

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I mean just go play era if that’s what you want.

good luck getting the same 40 people on every time for raid. did you guys forget that these aren’t even real raids ? they are the size of a dungeon because it is literally a dungeon that has been tuned up for 10 people instead of 5. and you guys are comparing it to 40 man raids at level 60…

Ok, form a 40 man raid comp, tell me how much fun that is.

Oh even better, Manage 15 rogues and warriors asking for windfury when you only have 1 druid and shaman

until we get something bigger than 25s guilds are not really doing anything tbh

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there’s no problem setting up a 40man core in a realm with 5000 players.

Just because you can’t do it, doesn’t mean it’s difficult.

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Its tons of fun

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we did this stuff all the time in classic and had no problems :expressionless: if you’re acting like organizing 40 people is impossible, it sounds like you belong in the game that begins with R and ends with “tail”.

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I found 40 players hard to maintain. 10 is pretty disappointing though and I was hoping they were going to raise it to at least 20.

I didn’t so is it subjective?

Fantastic. Should everyone be forced to fill large raid groups then because you can? I’m asking for a happy medium.

And you’ll be able to do it in SoD when cap gets to level 60.

Yes. That’s how the game is played at max level.

Yes I am aware. I can’t wait

alright then why does this thread exist? You’ll get your 40 mans eventually

I dunno. Cause someone typed it out and posted it