SoD Devs - You guys okay?

SoD is something else… I’m going to speak of issues that have made the game really frustrating for me as a Rogue player. I’m sure other classes have other complaints but it feels like the SoD devs really don’t even try.

Mages that can heal, warlocks that don’t die, Boomkins that literally 1 shot you, Shamans that kill you while they’re AFK.

I don’t care how small your SoD team is, you need to balance basic PvP. It’s not fun playing a rogue that has literally 0 new abilities and some of the ones we have are so bad I don’t even know where to begin.

For instance, why is Shadowstep on the GCD? I can’t even shadowstep kick something something. Yet, you gave warlocks an immolation aura that they just turn on and voila you can never sap or open on them no matter how well you time the ticks, it doesn’t cost them HP or mana, they just turn it on and AFK.
They just sit on a flag in AB and you can’t do anything about it.

Why is there no alternative rune for chest piece for rogues for PvP? Deadly brew is the only decent one but it doesn’t interact well with rogue PvP at all, I sap someone, it procs crippling poison which procs deadly poison and breaks my sap.

Also, it’s either envenom or between the eyes for the legs? Envenom is god awful in PvP because you never get 5 deadly stacks and Between the eyes is just a ranged Kidney that does superficial damage. That’s the best you could come up with?

Why can’t you just nerf certain abilities in PvP like you do in retail by specifically lowering its damage in PvP cases? Nerf Lightning Shield, doesn’t take much.

PvP is just in a very sad state, classes like warriors and rogues got nothing but retail spells and even then, gimped, watered down versions of them while other classes are completely revamped and frankly some are ridiculous.

Like how come Rogues don’t have cloak of shadows? You didn’t think that would be a useful ability to have when everyone has 3 dots/5 ways to break your stealth/ etc…

Also, doesn’t help that you buff the HP of every player in BG’s which render rogues even less viable since everyone’s HP is inflated but my damage remains the same? Can we stop inflating HP in BG’s? That just makes certain classes better and other classes weaker b y default.

I can go on and on but you’re obviously aware of this but why do you do nothing about it?

There’s really very little thought put into PvP and even this new raid in ST.

For instance, 10 man raids were great and easy to pug and now you release a 20 man raid that takes 4 hours to clear and I can’t find a guild to raid with because I raid at off times and it’s impossible to pug this raid because you can’t find 20 people who raid at off times and who will randomly pug it instead of running it with their guild.

SoD is either classic + or its retail. Changes have been made. Accept it and move the game forward. No rogue enjoys putting 3 pts into Improved Sap for 90% chance only to have it break you out of stealth in important scenarios. - Just make it 100%, will that break the game?

Revamp talents and abilities, streamline things. I don’t understand there are so many basic things you can fix to make the game better instead of just adding runes every Phase of which the majority are useless and makes the game hella unfun to level a new class if I have to repeat the same grinding and tedious process for any rune I need not to mention spend tons of gold.

It was fine at 25 and 40 because there weren’t many runes and they were designed for mountless and broke players. As the game progresses there are too many runes which all require unique and tedious ways to unlock them.

Not to mention SoD economy got ruined by the devs inability to do basic math for incursions.

If your team is too small then make it bigger. It’s sad to hear such excuses from a multi billion dollar corporation. Like oh poor you, you’d rather not hire the extra 50 people so your shareholders can make a few extra bucks instead of making the game good.

/rantover

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Msft literally the largest company in the world currently, by market cap.

stop posting this useless garbage here and instead put it in your unsub note to blizzard. Not unsubbing? then stop complaining to the people actively enjoying the game

We don’t care.

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I already unsubbed and I put it in my note, cheerio friend 2 more months left on this sub :slight_smile:

Anw, this post isn’t for you, I’m talking to the devs with the hopes that one of them reads it.

You’re a literal tool for taking the time to post that you don’t care lmfao

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Rogues are also running around 2 shotting ppl with mutilate.

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Are you really complaining about the state of rogue in pvp

You are more delusional than anyone I’ve ever seen

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Yes I am, world PvP is different than BG’s

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You really just copy/pasted this from gen lmao

I posted there first, got redirected here

they aren’t listening lol

So, in your honest opinion, you’re talking to the devs by directly insulting them in your title? You think its appropriate to ask them if “they are ok?” then proceed to say they dont even try?

I’m sure they will respond to you asap.

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Skill Issue

Probably not they have like a team of 15 running 4 different classic versions

:clown_face:

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This isn’t an airport, you don’t need to announce your departure.

Actual truth comment here. Imagine being a class that can two shot as well and arguing that the paper, rock, scissors mentality of this games PvP also applies to you in some context.

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I personally hate when they separate pve and pvp - i think thats a bad road to go down. Just keep everything together and screw balance. Rock paper scissors is all it should ever be

I also don’t care, if it helps

You guys seem to froth at the mouth over shaman. I’m not asking for anything for shaman. I’m simply pointing out rogues can 2 shot most people

Imagine not realizing I play a resto druid and a mage too that are instantly killed by mutilate.

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You’re never going to get any sympathy from anyone other than rogue players. People here are too sore about being ganked in open world pvp in years past to realize that they can only get ganked by rogues now if they aren’t paying attention or have one of their million defensive tools up.

Let’s face it, rogue is mainly for people who like to troll. People don’t like being trolled, especially from the shadows. However, what they don’t realize is that they have a million and one other abilities and/or add-ons that have made the rogue almost useless. The Spy addon has pretty much killed our ability to stealth around mercilessly.

The devs also clearly hate rogues. They don’t understand the rogue player mindset and don’t understand the class’s needs, otherwise they’d have given us faster offhand daggers and more useful abilities. Instead they gave us shuriken toss, shiv, poison knife, and an ability that gives us 3(!) energy back on a crit. Our best off hands this phase are either world drops that cost thousands of gold or the hookfang shanker that hasn’t dropped in over 100 runs of brd.

The devs have made it clear they hate rogues and are doing everything they can to kill the class by a thousand cuts.

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