Even as a retail-main player it’s hard to deny that socializing with other players in retail has gone out the window. There is almost no reason to speak with other players and make meaningful groups, teams, and guilds anymore. The only thing you can’t do with cross-realm pugs is mythic raid at the start of the tier, and depending on what server you play on you can easily pug mythic raids in trade chat.
While I don’t disagree with you that there’s no “reason”, why does there have to be one? Just do it because you want to do it. I have no issues whatsoever doing groups with people or having fun in my guild, and that’s my own personal experience. Retail doesn’t lack socialization or community at all. The player does.
edit I should say my main’s guild, because for whatever reason I can’t switch forum characters to my main.
Do you guys not talk to your guilds? I’m trying to understand what socializing means in this context. Cause pugging groups is not socializing to me. Talking to my guildies and friends is socializing. Random Joe in my mythic is most likely someone I would never talk to again. He is a means to an end. What happens differently in classic? Does random Joe suddenly become a unicorn and has rainbows above his head making him more social?
That would require subjecting myself to vanilla wow again.
I’m not going to do that. And even back then, the “Community” thing was overblown, people just look back at anything with nostalgia, if anything the community was -worse- then than it is now.