Social Contract and what the people get away with

They are under the misconception that anything and everything they say is protected by Free Speech.

Act like a decent person and you have nothing to worry about.

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It is. Stay mad though. You already agreed to it. You’ve bought into that word salad you just vomited.

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These are the same rules we have hit accept on since the game started. They just made the wording simpler. They want you to read it again because quite a few have been rather cranky lately. :grin:

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The social contract is the same rules we’ve always had, it’s just a dumbed down version for those who don’t like to read. I mean I was reading a thread yesterday and there were people who after all these years didn’t know you weren’t supposed to use profanity.

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TBF I think it is a good thing, cause legalese is a TERRIBLE way to word stuff to read if you are not a lawyer, but yes I agree, you are right these rules are NOTHING new and I cannot believe they are even a topic of conversation.

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Think it’s a great tool to trigger dorks who parrot woke unironically

Cuz it’s just the ToS y’all already agreed to, just sounds prettier

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Right, because people always read the ToS when it pops up with a new change and needs to be accepted again.

Said it before and I’ll say it again: I find the “social contract” to be vaguely worded to the point where I’m questioning just how hard much of the stuff in it is going to be enforced.

If it nails people that deserve to be nailed? Ok, fine. I’ve got no problem with it. However, as I’ve said elsewhere, the stuff reads like a zero tolerance policy and is vague enough in some wording to make me think this is going to go poorly.

I honestly believe a fair number of trolls are going to find a way to weaponize the damn thing. That’s my primary concern with it.

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From a Blue…

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What does simplifying game mechanics have to do with the “social contract”? lol

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2 obvious outcomes to social censorship contract: People will ignore and play like before with moderation or non at all and risk bans.

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Toxic behavior of implemented perceived made up “HaTeSpEeCh” which doesn’t exist and there is only offensive speech will allow those that are easily offended of said speech to use and abuse the report system of those they find as “HaTeSpEech” or disagree with.

Inconclusion never use the chat system ever again because the thought police have more power now and do not care what you say and anything you say is now a crime.

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Blizzard is doing this to try to “look good” but in reality it will be the same automod trash that actually let’s actual toxic people be more toxic aka “everyone report xxx afk for capping stables instead of the quick 5-0 loss”

he basically said

“make the game easier”

If you bothered to read how the ToS was worded then vs how it is now? You’d get it. It was more specific then. Now it has become more vague. Making it more vague makes it easier for mods to suspend and ban people perhaps unfairly. When rules or laws are vague that can be a very bad thing.

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Exactly! but some people do not care because this how they want it to be.

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Remember when they had this thing called “PvP” and its design was that you are expected to killing other players over and over? That you get bonus points if you can go to where they respawn and keep kill them so fast they can’t get a chance to fight back and you can essentially keep them dead until the match is over (BGs) or they simply log off in disgust (wPvP)? They even get to do disgusting things to your body while you watch!

Nothing brings a group of people together and makes a happy family like that does!

Maybe they could even make commercials for the game encouraging you to hate half the player base! I am sure that will not lead to any toxicity

If you are a minority and feel like you’ve been wronged or misgendered or something you can report someone and get them banned even though it doesn’t matter at all and never will because first-world problems are not real.

If you are deranged and mentally unstable you can get people banned and do as you wish, Blizz will never ban you for being psycho and wanting things to go your way or no way.

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While the social contract will probably help slightly with some of the toxicity, it will likely generate more with people pushing the boundries, doing things to spite the contract, and emboldening people to use it to remove / ban / silence people they disagree with.

Getting rid of toxicity in this game comes down to removing the eSports style focus along with things like IO. When you have competition like that, you get elitism and toxicity. Look at FFXIV - a game with very little toxicity and a community that will actively jump on someone who is being toxic. That is what a social game should be - a place where people are friendly and respect each other, not the cesspool we see with uber competitive games like LoL, Fortnite, and WoW.

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They were abused and have mommy and daddy issues. “Because I suffered so much, absolutely nothing should get better for anyone at any time.”

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Personally, if they removed most of the forced grouping and LFG stuff, and had it more dependent on interacting with the community most these issues wouldn’t be an issue. Back in the day, if you were a huge dick, you’d have a reputation, and with your reputation it would be difficult for you to get into a guild or whatever. The toxic people would have to play together cause that’s the only group they could play with, the nice people who were pros would play together, the nice people who were crap at the game could play together, etc… people developed and changed their attitudes naturally.

Personally, I don’t like joining a group and having to carry people and now be expected to be super kind and a Q&A for them. I find it a bit ridiculous. You have access to an ingame profanity filter, USE IT. You have access to a ingame ignore list, USE IT. I’m forcing myself through Wrath Classic for the nostalgia and then never playing this game again tbh. People can be a-holes without cursing or attacking your identity/gender/race/etc., people can be condescending or rude in other ways that reporting them wont pick up.

So I am curious what’s going to happen when that becomes a topic? Are we just going to remove all in-game interactions with other people until none exist? If there is no interaction then there is no way to be offended?

I find it ridiculous, and thank god the people of Ukraine aren’t as weak as some of the people who wanted this (assuming Blizzard will even enforce it). I mean, If you are showing up to a raid and haven’t done research on the mechanics and get all upset cause people are telling you to play better or you get kicked since you chose not to come prepared… then wow I don’t know what to tell you to be honest. Sounds like lack of accountability and immaturity to me.

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