This fight is already stupidly hard on the healer, and the recent hotfix to one of his mechanics, basically buffed him to be even harder than before.
At least nerf the dmg from the statues, yeah letting them stack up is bad play, but even when played correctly and destroying all statues each time, its still very intensive.
This may be a “me problem” (I play healers), but I go full panic mode on that boss. LOL
Resto Druid is amazing for it, but healers that have to be in melee or have mana issues really struggle, especially when they get targeted…so I hear.
You no nerf candle!
There was a bug which caused the fight not to apply healing aborbs consistently to players. That bug went under the radar for several weeks and as such the fight was deemed fine.
Now that bug has been fixed, and the fight needs tuning to compensate for that.
Also they should do something about melee healers being the target of the frontal because at a certain point the uptime loss from having to go to a lone statue (Even if the rest of the group play the fight perfectly) means you’re really hurting for HPS. Fight’s disproportionately harder on MW and Hpal (Not to say it isn’t possible, it’s just significantly harder for a reason that’s completely RNG).
Tank can move the boss to keep the healer in melee range and allow them to be at/behind a statue
yeah i don’t feel like the fight needed a healing absorb during the 3 second window when damage stopped… assuming everyone played correctly
For the circles, yes. Not necessarily for the frontal. The statue spawns have too much variance and sometimes you’re forced to get an isolated statue that may not be in melee range.
We need more heal check rot damage type bosses in M+ and fewer spike damage fights.
Sounds like I need to try Darkflame Cleft before they gut it.
It’s fun to heal. As a casting healer.
As a MW or Hpal you’re blasting away then you have to spend 4 seconds unable to hit the boss and you fall drastically behind.
Week 1/2 cleft was fun. (Pres evoker.)
Then week 3 come tier sets, not so much. Became too easy with tier.
For Hpal, I thought their melee was a choice / mana efficient but not strictly necessary in terms of hps.
Even MW has castable heals.
At substantially lower value.
I have no issue with the amount of HPS the fight requires, it just feels like the way the mechanics are assigned creates situations where melee healers get shafted by RNG with little to no recourse. It’s obviously not going to matter to people doing even mid teens key levels, but as a rule of thumb you’d want some consistency when it comes to encounters that pressure health bars like this one does.
That’s why HOI 3rd boss was so beloved. The opportunity to pump ridiculous heals, but also the opportunity to plan things out and be rewarded for that planning.
Wouldn’t HOI’s third boss being forced to hide behind ice kinda count? (Although, I think there was some specific tank positioning so melee can still have uptime during that.)
Nah you could hit the boss if the tank positioned properly.
Which is why I have no issues with the circle debuff, players can optimise positioning to make sure the healer can get 2 statues in melee to not have to stop healing. They can’t do that with the frontal though.
The frontal is a stand-alone mechanic though isnt it? Melee can walk with the boss for the healer and then reset
The boss stands still and targets you, then you have to get behind a pillar.
If the standalone pillar is out of melee range of the boss, you’ve gotta go stand behind it unable to effectively heal the group while they’re rotting out from the active statues. Even worse if you’ve got wings / chi ji rolling which require melee uptime to effectively use.
Ah this is the part i forgot. Been a minute since ive bothered to run that dungeon.
Clears things up
good news everyone, there is now a bug where sometimes the darkflame just doesn’t remove the wax statues, but everyone still gets a healing absorb!
just ran into it on a 13