So when the FFIXV fad dies down

[Forums-skeram]

@Aythina-illidan

Keep telling yourself that while the world increasingly feels more empty and void of players around you. Just curl up in fetal position in Orgrimmar saying “They’ll be back, they’ll be back, they’ll be back” until then. You’ll probably see players again in a year when they drop 10.0 for a bit.

Anecdotal evidence. I still see people questing, no different than when I did before.

[Bloodlust-kalecgos]

Are you seriously having a conversation with your own alt?

[Aythina-illidan]

@Forums-skeram

Anecdotal evidence

Pray tell how a website that scrapes actively playing characters and reports how many characters have been utilized in the last 28 days is anecdotal and not empirical.

I really want you to answer that one to me. You’re actually trying to argue with the closest thing we have to objective fact and say it’s anecdotal. This isn’t how this works at all.

[Aythina-illidan]

@Bloodlust-kalecgos

with your own alt?

? That is not my character. This is the only character I forum post on.

[Bighippy-tichondrius]

Honestly that has literally been my experience…

[Plantains-shattered-hand (Plantains)]

Yup. Goes a far way to show that the state of the wow community is focused on some past issues of a streamer that has not streamed wow in like two months. The remaining wow players hate him, hate that hes playing ffxiv and giving that game exposure, hate that ffxiv has grown in popularity but have yet to understand why people feel this way and decided it must be because other people are mindless fools that like casual racism with little to no evidence of that

[Forums-skeram]

I’m talking about your “enjoy your more dead world” and I’ll be honest, I think you knew that. Why are you only arguing for the sake of arguing?

[Forums-skeram]

I just don’t get it. “The world is dead”… yet there are just as many people in each area. No more, no less.

I think maybe some people are so angry at recent events and want the game to fail that they’re inventing additional “facts” as they go to paint their own narrative? That’s just a guess.

[Aythina-illidan]

@Forums-skeram

I’m talking about your “enjoy your more dead world”

Again. Objective data is showing us that the playerbase is declining. This isn’t anecdotal. Keep trying.

@Forums-skeram

Why are you only arguing for the sake of arguing?

Look in a mirror Mr. “Any proof you can supply of the game objectively dying is purely anecdotal, those players will all be back, just you watch. Sure they haven’t been coming back lately, but they’ll be back mark my words!”

[Jitasa-tichondrius]

people leaving wow?its the streamer fault!!!
people criticising wow?THEY DONT PLAY THE GAME ANYMORE!!!
content creator leaving wow?CLICKBAIT AND THEY WANT DRAMA!!!

"The game is fine,haters can leave the game,the devs will fix it"this is probably what they think right now

[Licarna-bleeding-hollow]

@Bloodlust-kalecgos

Are you seriously having a conversation with your own alt?

People who try to start drama, or hurt others reputations saying things like this should be perma banned.

It’s bad trolling. Stop.

[Bighippy-tichondrius]

I think what you are dealing with are a handful of narcissistic folk who are entirely self Involved. And are spouting rhetoric without having an actual discussion.

And then there are a few people that are honestly In similar boats as myself. Worried and trying to bargain with the future.

[Aythina-illidan]

@Bighippy-tichondrius

trying to bargain

The only “bargain” with this game is the bargain bin D team they employed to develop Shadowlands.

[Fetcher-shadow-council]

@Jhannae-bronzebeard

Even FF14 maker admit that they are just a fraction of WoW which they benchmark.

That’s a baldfaced lie.

@Jhannae-bronzebeard

To me, a trivial game

Trivial? LMAO! Come on now, you can’t honestly believe your own detritus.

[Bighippy-tichondrius]

Lol my beef lays with 9.1 and the lack of things to do. Korthia got old/boring, and THEN I reached exalted.

[Aythina-illidan]

I can’t speak for 9.1. I was very much compelled to not play it. Part of me was thinking “Eh, I have a sub, why not, leveling a character won’t be too hard after I deleted my other ones” then I just had a gut feeling it would be a mistake. Looks to me like I made the right call but your mileage may vary.

[Forums-skeram]

@Aythina-illidan

Again. Objective data is showing us that the playerbase is declining. This isn’t anecdotal. Keep trying.

You: Your world is dying

Me: No it isn’t

You: Yes it is

Me: ???

@Aythina-illidan

Look in a mirror Mr. “Any proof you can supply of the game objectively dying is purely anecdotal, those players will all be back, just you watch. Sure they haven’t been coming back lately, but they’ll be back mark my words!”

And you can doom/gloom all you want. Obsessive gamers exist.

@Bighippy-tichondrius

I think what you are dealing with are a handful of narcissistic folk who are entirely self Involved. And are spouting rhetoric without having an actual discussion.

And then there are a few people that are honestly In similar boats as myself. Worried and trying to bargain with the future.

Some are not wrong to an extent. The population is declining, there is no doubt about that. But all the assumptions they’re pulling out of it and trying to pass them off as truth/fact is a little… odd (to say the least).

[Plantains-shattered-hand (Plantains)]

Whats most annoying is the wow community’s idea that if you criticize wow its because you are a wow hater that wants to see it fail. Ignoring how many years and money people have poured into this game. Im 30 and half my life is in this game. However this game no longer has the direction it needs at the developer level to keep me engaged for 6 months plus and they fail at communication and content at every level while never ceasing to fail at new store mounts. Simply put the community remains are happy to accept garbage and thats what they will get. Its sad but true. The devs have little incentive to actually make a good game anymore when they can give a quarter of the effort and make double the profits via online store sales

[Aythina-illidan]

@Licarna-bleeding-hollow

People who try to start drama, or hurt others reputations saying things like this should be perma banned.

Man, I thought the orc was pretty stupid with his refusal to address objective facts and data while he insisted “players will be back.” But this whole “Two people having a conversation? Must be someone typing a conversation to themselves!” guy might actually take the cake.

Probably not though, there’s dumb takes and really dumb takes. Denying the existence of objective data and calling it anecdotal is some peak dumb.

[Sotirios-pagle]

i have blocked all of them from my youtube feedback no need for their toxicity and awful followers