Overall there are a few more haves in each role but the difference between haves and have nots is still about the same. 4/5 of all title range keys so far have a mage in them for example.
Overall class balance. Itâs closer to how it was in DF S1 where you had a lot of choices for every role and you just have to logically build your comp around your groups strengths/weaknesses. No spec feels mandatory and that even includes augs.
Blizzard just needs to focus on bumping up a few specs that need better survivability and damage output. Shadow included.
There are a LOT of underperforming specs in M+, itâs just that most people donât consider the worst spec for a class and only consider if that class has a good spec for their roles.
For instance shadow gets a lot of specific complaints because it is the only dps spec that priests have. The same level of concern is not giving to affliction warlocks or arcane mages, because those classes have other dps specs that perform.
But the same ones seem to still be low performing for their specific situation such as monks and feral druid dps.
You do need to take in account the player perception side of things as well.
But to what degree. Weâve already kind of established that players are bad at making informed decisions and reality vs perception often does not matter.
I mean look at what happened with augmentation evokers on release. people getting kicked from groups for doing âlow damageâ on a support spec.
Players are not very bright.
Does it play well, no. is it perfectly viable and fine in content, absolutely. Will you struggle to get invited to key? you betcha.
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We over looking the Augvokers ability to move him where he needed to be?
I was considering adding that but I thought it might be a bit too much to explain, I am still kinda surprised how undervalued rescue was as a dps tool in the TGP as a whole.
Well it killed any chance priests had of getting Vault back.
Vault is never coming back under current design goals. As of the Dragonflight beta, Blizzard said they didnât like that priests would always take Vault if it were offered and they like priests slowly crawling to a place to pull off a clutch lifegrip.
lol donât even bother. look at this total crapfest for a thread. i go away for a few days and they just come down on ME for 80 posts, like shadow is totally fine (which it is most def not). but itâs all good, lucky for me i couldnât care less what these +11 all stars think.
for real though, donât let them make you think shadow is great and itâs just you and your performance. this is what the forum flunkies, who are grown adults too scared to post on their mains like faeforsale and damascus and ellipticals or whatever their names are for example, do. and meanwhile they have absolutely nothing to back up these opinions like theyâre godâs gift to wow. shadow is not in good shape, donât doubt it. itâs just the forums is overstuffed with these types who dispense with the opinions like theyâre know-it-all amazing⌠and clearly (just look at their armories, oh wait, theyâre hiding them! lol) theyâre not.
expect shadow buffs (even MORE aside from the two consecutive ones, cause thatâs how awesome this spec is right now, according to the countless level 10 toons talking a big game lolololol) for sure.
Shadow is crap to play in the current iterationâŚthat is all
lmao gets proven wrong by multiple sources and links, proceeds to build a giant strawmanâŚBuT U r PoSTiNg oN AlT sO ThAt mEaNs YoU r WroNGâŚ
Hey quick question, do you come up with your talent builds on your own and/or do you make your gear choices based on your own knowledge or do you use a guide of some sort? If so, which?
To be fair Iâve also not said there arenât problems. Just that afer the recent buffs the damage the spec offers can be competitive. Youâll struggle if youâre not proactive in getting damage out on packs as they start, youâll struggle if youâre letting yourself lag behind in positioning and holding W while the pullâs already started, and Shadowâs utility leaves a lot to be desired after the nerfs in Season 2 as well as not lining up particularly well into the current dungeon pool.
However youâre sitting here whining like itâs utterly unplayable.
Not really started pushing keys this season yet. One of my ToTTs is a 14 
S1 and S2 title though soâŚ
I expect if we get any theyâll be mostly aimed at raids, given performance there is pretty awful especially on Tindral. However as all Shadowâs damage is tied together due to psychic link itâll be interesting to see how they fix things without putting damage back where it was last season.
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uh oh, wow guru m+ master who of course is much too scared to post on a character they actually play to prove just how awesome they are has weaseled their way back into the conversation! keep yapping behind your level 10 toon lemonshack, the adults talking here have learned to kinda drown your types out anyway, lol.
once again you cant refute any of the points made so you build up a strawman. yup seems like a very mature and adult thing to do. so when are you going to admit you were wrong?
Sincere question: what will posting on a main change? What facts will it alter?
What will it change? Are you looking to try to be higher io score than someone else to validate your claims? Theres 3500 SPriests doing better than you. Hell theres 45 on your server alone doing better than you.
We can check your m+ logs and see that youre not parsing very well either meaning your experience and overall outlook of the spec is skewed on your personal experience with the spec and not its actual potential or true performance.
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all iâve done is refute them. you going right over them just so you can parrot, âOnCe AgAiN yOu cAnâT ReFuTe ThEm!11!!â like thatâs some smart and witty reply, lol. sorry there, lemonshack, but it isnât. iâll admit iâm wrong when you admit itâs genuinely sad that youâre so insecure you canât even post on a toon you actually play to give your schoolyard opinions even a shred of credibility, mmk?
lmao once again the strawman. every argument youve made in this thread has been refuted. now im going to ask the same question the above poster asked.
answer this. what i will say is while im not maining spriest i am a higher io on 3 of my chars than your spriest. that being said i do play with several spriests that have all said the same thing. its not the most fun to play but it is 100% viable. its honestly better than my main dps class right now lol.