Nope. Herod and presumably other servers all paid their way to xfer to bene originally, and that’s why it blew up. They got tired of being minority faction, and basically were sold on the notion that you could insta queue for almost anything on Bene (pretty ironic since people were against groupfinder at the time). Keep in mind this was when Bene was still relatively even, so it was early on in the process… but that process landslided pretty quickly. It was only months and months after the fact when Blizzard was like, welllll I guess we’ll let you xfer for free, and there were artificial restrictions for various servers, though I don’t know the ins and outs of what those restrictions were. Just know I ran into them and was incredibly frustrated by them. Paying to swap my horde account to bene was a pretty big slap in the face, not gonna lie, but it was worth it in the end.
Don’t think it had the reputation for balance that it does now… that and balance doesn’t mean anything when people are willing to ship their entire server to a new one at the drop of a dime.
Bene aint on that list my dude.
Pretty sure there was something pretty important to the article here, but it has since been deleted.
This is just flatly incorrect. I had alts still on Herod and was unable to get them to horde bene without paying. I think some servers were allowed Bene / Faerlina access for free, but Herod wasn’t one of them (probably because most people had paid to go there already).
Probably were more pissed that they were having to pay to go to the relevant realms.
Mmm… don’t think so, but possible. My brain is pretty garbo at remembering things sometimes, but normally the only thing it’s consistent with is remembering WoW info lol.
Grobb is barely a server anymore tbh. It would fall under the category of xferring to a dead realm for most people.
Grobb only has 2.7k people total between both factions. To give you some perspective, Herod was down to 5k players on alliance when they decided to yeet to benediction “Because it was too dead.”
If everyone’s on the same server, there’s no where for them to go other than PvE servers, which is fine if they choose to make that option. PvP servers were so overwhelmingly popular of a choice originally, I just don’t imagine people somehow no longer being fine with that choice. I think everyone just yeeted themselves into unideal positions, and blizzard didn’t adapt. If groupfinder would have been in from the start (and possibly cross server) I doubt the xfers would have ever happened.
Again, first transfers weren’t free.
They didnt become 70+ one faction until people paid to swap there. Trust me, I was a first hand refugee, a very reluctant one. My brother was kind enough to pay for 6 of my chars to get xfers. It was very much just a money grab on blizzard’s part. It was only after those paid xfers slowed down that they offered the free ones.
Except they’re literally labeled PvP. Grobb wasn’t even relevant at the time, and if people decided to go there, there would have been a good bet that it would have landslided too. There were other realms that were looking balanced like Whitemane, and eventually it got tilted over to one faction as well. PvP balance isn’t achievable via player initiative alone. Grobb seems to be a happy accident somehow or another, but it isn’t immune to the same effect.
That type of thing is where retail is just perma locked with War Mode now. They can’t undo the mistake because they basically turned off PvP servers all together. I think classic there’s a little more wiggle room since they’re still technically PvP servers, but I grant you that was not bright on their part. That said, I also understand it from their perspective given the state of those servers. Just a frustrating situation all around tbh, because I knew what was happening when it was happening, and there was nothing I could say or do to stop it from happening. Rip Herod, meme’d into oblivion.
Tol barad is probably the best bet at this point. Still working on gearing up my Sham, but having to deal with the honor weapons being bugged is rather annoying.
Yeah, either let us pick, or disable them in competitive play. Again, that’s a situation where unfortunately money is an incentive for bad design, as those xfers generate a lot of income for them I imagine.
That would be enough tbh. Maybe it’d end up with people being passive upon remerging of the servers and just being chill with each other, and that’s fine. There’s generally ceasefires on the first days of leveling anyways on PvP servers. All it takes is one troll to get the ball rolling for the PvP grudge match though. =P
I doubt people would quit / reroll over it. Like I said, give em the easy option of swapping to PvE servers free, so they are allowed an out. I’m not advocating for people to be stuck in a situation they don’t want to be in. I just think it’s incredibly unhealthy for the game to be heavily majority PvE. Keeping the balance of PvP and PvE in gameplay allows for alternate game cycles to deal with burnout, instead of just quitting.
Unfortunately I do agree mostly with this. Doesn’t mean they couldn’t try, but they seem to be done putting in effort with this iteration of the game.
Doubtful, would just get em to reroll PvE servers.
Dang, stop flattering me so much. All jokes aside, it’s a healthy game cycle that incentivizes gearing up for PvP. Your alt gets ganked by some pleb? You either get on your main and camp them, or if you don’t have a main you are encouraged to finish leveling said character and seeking out revenge. PvP has some of the most satiating game cycles around, and people just dismiss that because they throw temper tantrums like a 7 year old kid when being ganked.