So many complaints about LGBTQ characters or other minority characters is that bigots claim they arent “anti” such and such group. They just hate blizzard “Checking the box” and making things “political”.
So wheres the line? At what point does it go from proper representation to “pandering”.
Now watch as they have no real answer. Because to them, even just one would be “pandering”.
The answer is going to vary from person to person.
I just wish that when people see representation for a category of person that they don’t personally fall under, that they didn’t view it as lack of representation for themselves.
In past expansions I never did, and it’s unfortunate to see others feeling this way now. Although I really don’t feel too bad for them.
I will say, they did seem to go all in with the LGBT inclusion this time around.
I have personally never cared about representation in media either way. That’s not what I’m paying attention to in video games.
If you ask the outrage crowd on these forums, the moment an LGBT couple is put in the game, or a transgender character is put in the game, it’s ‘pandering’ or ‘virtue signalling’. There’s no line between representation and pandering. It’s just pandering.
Personally I’m all for representation and I don’t care how much Blizzard adds. They’ve done a great job so far showing these couples as being ‘real’ (or as real as can be expected given that they’re characters in a video game). They can add as many additional LGBT NPCs as they like if they continue to do them justice in how they appear in-game.
Its not hard to see that representation has been made political and straight people are being forced to conform to ideologies that are being created by the left.
I miss the old gays of the world where no one cared, or had their own group that is not isolating gays from straight people.
Should always be about uniting everyone and not just one group.
All of the LGBT+ couples in this game aren’t pandering.
They don’t make it a point to discuss their sexuality. They’re just…people (except for that dragon couple, they’re not people, clearly they’re dragons ).
LGBT+ rep is hard to achieve because as you said, it can come across as pandering. But a lot of LGBT+ folks are so starved of representation, that they’ll go along with it no matter how bad the character is.
I’ve said this before, but I think the Overwatch team did a fantastic job with Tracer. She’s on the cover, she’s the poster girl of Overwatch and she’s gay. Her being gay doesn’t affected the game.
I also like how they did Chromie. Chromie is trans. Chromie being trans doesn’t affect her from trying to stop the infinite dragonflight! There is a lovely short story about Chromie picking out what visage form suits her and she picks a female gnome.
LGBT+ characters are properly represented when their sexuality isn’t the forefront of their character.
The line is where Blizzard says it is. Blizzard’s game, Blizzard’s rules. If you don’t like where Blizzard draws that line, you’re free to go elsewhere.
My question is where the heck is Shaw and Flynn? If Blizz wants to have some LGBT+ representation in game, use some of your legacy characters that players actually care about and not introduce new characters that will be forgotten about the moment we move on to new stories because these new characters ultimately are irrelevant to the main plot of WoW. Credit where credit is due though, Blizz keeps using Chromie who is a character I’ve always enjoyed.
Pandering is when the company displays it everywhere. The most I’ve seen of any rainbowmafia stuff is people crying on the forums. It’s practically nowhere in the majority of the game. It’s a small fraction that you dont have to take part in. You arent forced to read text. Just look at what you need to make or do and be done with it.
Of the few openly homosexual couples I ran into, my mind went, ‘Oh, neat, they’re a couple. Aww they adopted a duck, that’s cute. Well, let’s move on!’
It wasn’t in your face, it wasn’t ranted on about, it wasn’t screaming, “Hey, HEY! YOU! Do you see this?! They’re GAY.” It was just subtlety introduced. Even the quest where you’re getting a gift for the crafting guy’s husband wasn’t pandering.
If the mere inclusion of homosexuality in your media is tantamount to pandering…I’m sorry?
“They” would have no clear answer because it is inclusive of a huge variety of people all who feel different things for different reasons. Asking for consensus is ludicrous.
My line is this having romantic relationships. Straight, gay or whatever I don’t want to know about it. If it needs to be added in game (again any romantic relationship) give me an option to opt out of seeing any of it. Make more war not love.
Who or what gets you or any other player hot and steamy is not anything I want to know about, and am sick of hearing about on the forums or any other online media. Go pay a therapist or a hooker, just don’t use me as a shoulder to cry on and expect sympathy.
I really wish we could go back to a time were we just talked about gaming and not what fictional character was having sex with some other fictional character, or what genitalia if any they may or may not have.