BFA has bored me enough that I actually got around to completing the Worgen intro. Which was mostly grim, vaguely English people, growling (often literally) in the rain.
I kept waiting for some big Forsaken atrocity set piece to happen but, never really does. Sure they enslave some chimney sweeps and threaten to use the plague. That’d be incorrigible on 21st Century Earth, but in Azeroth - where wholesale extermination of entire villages of humanoids is often the knee jerk response to any form of conflict - it’s more mean spirited than criminal.
And I’ve played the Forsaken side numerous times. And yeah the Forsaken turn humans but so do the worgen. I guess the humans sorta agree in the worgen case but it’s very clear that they hate this idea but don’t see another option. It’s team Edward or Jacob, Hillsbrad humans. Either way you’re getting claws so get ready to wipe your bum with exceptional care.
Other than that I really struggle to think of something particularly naughty. I guess Windy kills one of Greymane’s kids but dude jumped in front of the arrow. And the in game cutscenes was so janky I found it hilarious. And threatens to kill and raise his daughter but holding royal family members hostage was a super common medieval tactic so, /shrug.
What was the big deal?
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I dunno Benedikt, this just feels like bait. You actually asking or you looking for a discussion, or what? Cause, well, the post just doesn’t feel legit. I’ve read your posts before, and you just sound so… not into this question I doubt you actually care about what anyone answers with.
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I got that vibe from the title alone.
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I’m just not seeing what was so awful here. The Forsaken are certainly the villains in the Gilneas side of the story but, I was waiting for some Theramore or Teldrassil tier atrocity and that never really happens.
I’ll bite : )
I think it was like the uptenth time that the Horde tried to commit genocide.
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I suppose. But on the Forsaken’s side you can see the reasoning. Jumping into a new Cata undead toon straight after reading Edge of Night, you get the picture of the Forsaken being forced into this war of attrition. On the orders of a Warchief who demonstrably does not care if they’re pushed to extinction by it.
So in that scenario the use of WMDs doesn’t seem unreasonable. It’s not Plan A or B. And, to my knowledge, doesn’t come up much on the Forsaken side. Most of the Worgen War is fought conventionally.
And I’m still baffled why Gilneas is in this weird limbo. I really thought that scenario would answer some of my questions but now I’m even more confused.
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Oh so they where forced to genocide those poor forsaken always being forced to plague and genocide
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I think at some point they retconned it so Slyvanas secretly wanted to invade Gilneas. Because at some point Windy became a character so needlessly malevolent that I don’t think she could have an egg for breakdfast unless she could make the mother hen watch.
But as it stands in the original context, the Forsaken very much got roped into this and dont seem too happy to be fighting a werewolf army.
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Poor them I bet you guys got so much hate like baine did for not doing something about it
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I agree if you take account the Edge of Night the only thing they did was survive the war.
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And I still don’t get what the deal with Gilneas is. You don’t capture it on the Forsaken. You get the Alliance to agree to a retreat - but it’s at Greymane’s Wall. I thought they were going back into Gilneas. The Forsaken quests take you to Hilsbrad after that where you continue to fight Worgen but also the Stormpike Expedition and SI:7.
So, I got zero clue where this ‘the Forsaken destroyed Gilneas’ narrative comes from. Since I’ve now played both sides and that never happens. I guess with the BG in mind it’s still being squabbled over.
partly because blizzard gives us contradicting info on what is happening in gilneas. in the bfa book it says forsaken hold it, but other sources say its abandoned due to blight or gilnean held
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You’d think we’d at least have gotten a new dungeon or BG or Warfront about it in the vein of the Motherlode vis-à-vis Kezan.
But, no it’s just this fairly large, mostly intact region I’ve no reason to believe is uninhabitable.
That you’d think would have been of keener interest to the Alliance and Horde than Stromgarde or Darkshore but, shrug. They really wanted that Orcs VS Human throwback I guess.
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i really want them to give gilneans back their city, at least in the lore, so gilneans can start having their own identity instead of being furry stormwindians. even if it doesnt change the overworld.
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Subjected the entire area to the same poorly-written limbo everyone the Forsaken lashed out at since Cata gets sent to. But that’s the writers’ bad for not following up on anything ever, or at least not doing so in game.
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Man if only there was some sorta, War Over Azeroth expansion. Where hanging plot threads like these could be addressed and these zones could be updated. Perhaps with some sort of battlefront gameplay mode.
Oh well. Shame BFA was about Void gods and black dragons.
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indeed, a small part of me wished that the worgen heritage questline would be about reclaiming our home, but i should have known better than to hope
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Cause the forsaken plagued it at the end of the starting zone at least chunks of it
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The Worgen heritage questline gives me actual tangible dread about anything they’ve planned for the future of the Forsaken.
Ours is going to be Calia Menethil, walking us around dream Lordaeron, telling us you know we’re more Lordaeronian than undead creatures of the night and that’s what’s really important.
Then we develop a nice gas weapon called Bloom which makes flowers grow, children smile and brings Spot the wonder dog back to life.
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What you rather keep plaguing and keep getting that villain bat on you?