So what reason is there for race / class restrictions?

Yes, that is true, but Trolls are Heavily connected to the Loa, and most of the Loa are Wild Gods, Resan, Gonk, Akunda, Krag’wa, Hir’eek, Hakkar, etc. All Wild Gods, they give their blessings to the Troll people, likewise, the Wild Gods such as Cenarius, Malorne, Aviana and so on, gave their blessings to the Kaldorei and Tauren.

The Highborne descend from the Elves that refused to take on Nature magic, they still have a hint of their connection to nature, especially the Nightborne with the Arcan’dor, but they are almost completely sutured by Arcane and in the case of the Sin’dorei, Holy too, Druidism would take ageeeeeeeees for them to pick up again.

As for the Drust in Drustvar, it’s heavily implied that they had a connection to the Wild Gods there, in particular Athair, “The Heart of the Forest”, the only lore we got from the Drust Druids prior to Gorak Tul’s reign was that they were already an established organization, but it’s very likely they had to be given a blessing by a creature of the Wilds to achieve their connection, like it was the case for Trolls, Kaldorei and Tauren. The Kul’Tiran druids probably are those that are descendants of the Vrykul/Human children, and their innate connection to nature lives on in their blood.

Void Elf Paladin will never make sense without a huge lore retcon.

If Velf Paladin can’t make sense, then we’re not opening every class/race restriction, so would be unfair.

Also think of the Horde. The moment Blood Elves can be Druids and Shamans, their faction will look like Barbieland. And that’s assuming it doesn’t look like that already.

I personally like my distinction between races and their culture, and that is not less valid than the other’s opinion.

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In our world yes they are. In warcraft world they aren’t. They don’t worship invisible entities. More to it, in WoW they get very real, very physical powers from the entities they interact with - not a religion. More “transactional” in nature then real world religions.

Could be. Or maybe the panderans don’t have crusades. 1 man traveling around as a priest doing exorcisms wouldn’t create the need for someone to create a group of paladins. Easy for me to imagine it not happening. Especially with peaceful races.

Explain Tauren Pallies then. They’re not overly violent or warlike. Pretty similar to Pandaren in demeanor, actually.

You’re both correct.

Void Elves and Undead using holy magic period goes against any and all lore we have – and yet both races can be Holy / Disc Priests.

Void Elves use Shadow magic. You just won’t lock them out of the other specs.

Priest is not a Paladin. A Void Elf worshipping the light like the human do makes 0 sense. It’s like Sargeras worshipping Arcane, or not sure, an old god worshipping a Naaru.

Using light to your advantage is not the same as a Paladin. It’s clearly stated in the Lore that to be a Paladin you have to go beyond. Why would a Void Elf worship the Light when the very lore of the race is turning to the Void?

It makes no sense in the slightest.

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They can worship visible ones. The transaction is worship and beliefs for power. Religion.

Basically to annoy its customers because they are too cheap to do the work. It cost at least 500 hours to do this and that depends on the coder abilities. Remember wow still has some old codes built in.

Love to continue, but I have to get ready for work. Have a good day guys.

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I’d like to introduce you to Blood Elves using an imprisoned Naaru to be Paladins for… how many years? Hm.

You don’t have to worship the light to use it, it’s a universal force just like any other magic – though it’s semi-sentient it seems like, as with the Void.

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Precisely, it’s transactional. The Goblin shamans ceetainly couldn’t care less what elementals think of them, they actually bribe them for powers.

I on the other hand have yet to see any real world Abrahamic religions empowering you to pop paladin wings when you’re fighting a “crusade”. So no. Nothing like real world religions.

Why would Void scholars want to force a Naaru? If they wanted to use the light they could’ve stayed back in Silvermoon. And they did. Only people wanting to learn from the Void left.

There really isn’t a good reason for class/race limitations.

New lore can be created to support new combinations, but the usual response is MUH LORE like garlic to a vampire.

I would love to play a Paladin Vulpera. But MUH LORE.

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From what I understand, there a couple combos that are kind of killing it for the rest.

Undead Pallies
Void elf Pallies
Draenei & Night Elf Warlocks

All of the others (Goblins/Gnomes being too greedy/mechanical/materialistic to be druids, for example) are just super weak excuses.

As to those 3 above. Undead Pallies is based on the Light burns them. Yes. the assumption is all the priests are shadow/void whatever. But there IS a holy priest in the Legion priest class hall that uses the light and just suffers the pain of it. So it IS possible. And in my view, even though there would be hundreds of player-character undead Pallies running around, “The Champion” lore wise is just one person. So having one other undead willing to suffer the light isn’t a stretch. They also control their own lore, maybe with all he did the Light rewards Alonsus by protecting him from the pain the Light causes, and he’s able to pass this gift on to others? I don’t feel that would be a terrible breach.

Draenei & Night Elf Warlocks, I think this one is even weaker than undead. Night Elves have already chosen Fel when some became Illidari. They took that demonic power to fight the demons. I honestly can’t imagine that after Teldrassil some DIDN’T turn to whatever means necessary to get vengeance. And the Alliance tolerates warlocks from other races. Any Draenei or Night Elf warlocks might be shunned/exiled from their own people, but they wouldn’t be shunned by the whole Alliance. Maybe when you roll a Draenei or Night Elf warlock you have a different starting experience (or have to do exiles reach) and your race is hostile to you, but you can eventually earn rep with them and prove yourself?

I just really don’t think there is any unstoppable Lore reason that can truly hold back fully opening up race/class restrictions if Blizz wanted to. It could even come with an expansion that heavily focuses on Class fantasy and maybe focuses on the races and their individual stories a bit, and focusing on that could result in storylines that lead up to removing the factions (or at least allowing for cross faction play).

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Would actually love to roll a Manari sympathetic warlock Eredar ladies. Would actually be BiS. Would actually feel like a proper lock race.

So weird that some titan created Gnomes for example have no issue flirting with Fel powers and nobody cares, but the race that has historically messed up their entire society flirting with fel (the Eredar people) suddenly have ZERO fel curious or deviants in their ranks or through their children etc…

Which by the way has ALSO happened on Dreanor…

We just need some Fel curios Eredar who are also looking to join the good guy side.

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Way better put than I could have, since I haven’t played in years and don’t know all the new lore. I just don’t get the excuse, or why people support it.

Lore is an excuse though. Just because you dont like the reason doesnt mean its not a good reason. Certainly they can change the current lore to allow for certain class race combos, they can also decide the powerpuff girls fly into the maw and beat up the jailer because thats what some fans want.

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That’s what it is, an excuse.

Just because a new race can hold the shiny hammer flashlight doesn’t mean all of reality will crumble apart.

What a joke.