So what game is everyone going to play now?

Yes because 170 hours for one item within 12 days is reasonable.

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I wasn’t arguing that, focus on my words. You guys wanted no changes. No changes means no changes.

Y’all are adorable.

The Burning Crusade: Classic

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I was against #nochanges from the start there were many changes that were quite good for players.

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Sure no changes! So where is that 5-6 week prepatch? Oh and why are we seeing 58 boosters, BE/DR before TBC full launch?

There are nice items from PVE too.

I’m with you 100%, I’m only pointing out the irony.

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You just keep missing the whole point of my post.

I’ma try and spell this out.

I’m simply pointing out the irony of people complaining about changes, until the change benefits them.

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I’ve been waiting on the pre-patch for leveling alts. Mount (reduced cost, no less!) at 30, nerfed XP requirements, buffed quest xp… There’s plenty of incentive!

Oh, and there’s the Draenei shaman that I plan to level to be my JC.

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Bingo, as long as it’s not run by actiblizz because sure enough if they did they would find a way to screw ur up.

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Do you know why people are complaining about it though? Because original prepatch we were able to get the gear. Thus disabling us from getting it during a time we were able to is technically a change.

Much less the change they made has been proven to be extremely off and shortening it too far. No changes was never about ā€œmake it hardā€ it was about keeping it where it was.

Yes I get your point, calling the hypocrisy, but there is no hypocrisy where you think there is. And even then, the honor change argument is not a no changes one. It’s just general people upset that Blizzard took away their ability to do what they were able to do in original prepatch.

Point being, back then we could get this gear in prepatch, now we cannot. That is a change. So it is not ironic. Heck have it at the actual values if we could have 5-6 week prepatch, a lot of no changes likely want the prepatch to be that long. Let us work for the gear.

You are aware that honor in 2007 pre patch was what we were getting before the nerf right?

Just a friendly reminder PSA.

90% (using your made up percent) of classic players don’t care about PVP.

Thank you and don’t forget to tip your wait staff.

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Why play any game when forum PvP is the best LOL.

Fishing, and cooking. In game and irl.

Personally I’d rather it stayed at 10x or were even higher. By participation would be amazing and everyone would come into tbc on an even playing field. I’d also rather a 6 week prepatch. I’d also rather some balancing changes and some qol additions. I recognize I’m in the minority though so I keep it or myself usually.

I’m just simply pointing out the irony. The people who wanted no changes can’t then want a qol change, randomly bc they liked it.

This post is like when that guy in the group that nobody likes but everybody tolerates says ā€œCome on guys, lets go!ā€ and everyone just kind of ignores him while they continue doing what they were doing.

Except the overall honor per BG was about in line. Honor from HKs is currently bugged. Bonus honor was too high, but made up for the HK bug. Predictably they hotfixed bonus honor, but haven’t even acknowledged the busted values for HKs.

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From what I’ve read it was not, it was higher than it currently is, then nerfed just like this time. It just took them a week to fix it last time.

I get that we agree, but the change they made actually goes against no changes as it is not accurate. So I just don’t see it being ironic myself.