It was a problem since forever. 1 minute CD AOE silence on top of your other silences? Especially tank DH’s who had another AOE silence+ a normal one. Became a nightmare. Blood DH’s were able to straight up murder casters all day everyday and they had a 0% chance to win.
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Facts don’t care about your feelings. I gave every single counterpoint to every single argument raised.
There is a difference between an ad hom. and calling out someone for making an absurd argument. You took quotes of what I said without examining my argument and called it an ad hom. You don’t know what an ad. hom. is, neither would I expect you to bring up a single fact to disprove what I’m saying.
Listen, fam. I’m gonna’ need a a citation for that and since you don’t provide one I had to go look for it myself.
According to an developer QA with Lore and Ion where they were talking about warmode, there was no point where Ion
said that
What Ion DID say, however, is that awarding players with an ilvl 400 piece of gear was a dumb mistake. The result of this was that we’re now awarded with ilvl 385 gear.
You’re
because you don’t know how the system works. The Horde are not barred from the quest. In order to earn the quest there must be a great disparity of Horde to Alliance in warmode, which will cause the Alliance to turn off warmode.
Please be more literate okay? Thanks.
This statement comes off as funny to me now because you haven’t even bothered to provide your sources. I had to disprove your argument for you. I’d understand if you’re upset at me for disparaging you for no reason but when you have the audacity to be wrong, put literally no effort to proving your own argument, and then call me out, I find that amusing.
There must be a significant disparity between the number of Alliance to Horde participating in warmode. Literally look at the video I just linked Ion explains it.
Literally no, this is a hilarious conclusion.
You can’t call a system that attempts to fix disparities between faction participation in PvP broken. The reasoning that the other person provided before having a literal meltdown because they couldn’t provide a counter-example was that they felt that the system was unfair without explaining why it was unfair.
They don’t like the system because it is a balancing system that doesn’t work in their favor, which is not an argument. If there was no AOO, then the OP wouldn’t have an issue, they’d be fine with no balancing because the system would work fully in their favor. In the video, Ion said that at the point the faction disparity was bad, he said that most Horde figured they’d turn it on for a free 10% without having to engage in any challenge.
Your move.
You’re right, how could I forget? it’s [Current Year] and it’s better to silence people than engage them in a debate. Everyone who doesn’t agree with your purview is a Troll.
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So… it was a mistake that AOO went live as it did? HMMMMM
There is no way to earn the quest.
None.
Alliance did not earn the quest.
It was handed to us.
It is a pity present.
For Horde to get the quest, we must give it to them by turning on warmode for longer than the 15 minutes it takes to do AOO.
This is not an earned reward by any means. This is not given to people who did anything.
It’s given to the people who actually just did nothing outside WM so the game takes to bribe to get you to even participate.
We fundamentally disagree on what constitutes something being earned, so this is going to go nowhere, because your entirely perception of understanding the system is that you feel you “earned” this weekly.
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You’re changing the argument now to fit your narrative, not only did you quote Ion horrendously wrong, but the entire point of this discussion was to rebut the idea of AOO being a total failure.
You mean AOO? I’m pretty sure we did earn it, that’s the entire point of the discussion. When I logged into 8.1.5 and we had 30%, Mathias Shaw offered the quest. I apologize if you’re delusional.
No to earn AOO, the Horde must be severely outnumbered in warmode. Ion literally says this in the video.
There is a reward given at the end of the quest, if you kill 25 Horde players.
Okay, so now you’re pivoting to the “bribery” meme. Well, you couldn’t even be bothered to defend your own argument so you concede your last point about Ion, and we’re moving on I guess.
In order for me to participate in Mythic dungeons, I have to be rewarded with loot from the bosses. I’m literally being BRIBED to do the content. The idea of this being a bribe is a just a moronic way of re-framing a narrative to fit your conclusion.
Honestly, it’s not even that we semantically disagree.
You literally don’t understand English. You just don’t. You’re saying that we don’t get rewarded for doing the quest, and that we didn’t “earn” the quest even though the quest was CLEARLY there.
You’ve neither proven the point that AOO was in total, a failure, but instead you called it a “bribe” and left the argument as is.
This is beyond pepega-tier debating.
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Webster says
Earn (noun): gain deservedly in return for one’s behaviour or achievements.
What did you do to earn AOO?
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I understand English well enough that I teach it at a community college in Florida.
Pretty sure I have a firm grasp on the meaning of “earn”.
And I’m also 90% sure this whole thread is about a racial.
For literally the 5th time.
To earn AOO you must be outnumbered significantly in warmode.
Yikes… Omega yikes actually.
Considering that I had to explain the process of how you get the quest even though it’s literally two posts above, you didn’t even support your argument with evidence (which is basic high school logic), and you’ve failed to deconstruct my basic arguments point by point. I literally don’t know what to say except:
lmao
Which… for the fifth time, is not something you do to earn anything.
It just happens and is given to you.
What even is your point then? What point are you even trying to make? I mean, when Recruiter Kharn is standing there with the quest when the warfront is up, I guess I don’t technically EARN the quest right? I mean, the quest is just there, it happens and it’s given to me.
Is this entire argument now semantics because you couldn’t even be bothered to raise actual points?
You can call their argument stupid, garbage or anything you want. But you were insulting the person.
That’s ad hominem. Attacking the person and not the argument. And even if I took some of your message out of context you straight up insulted them and got reported for it.
Nothing you say can detract from that. Sorry.
You literally didn’t even read any of my argument and I know it. You read me calling out the absurdities from the other person, thought that “well if it insult then it ad. hom.!” then said my entire argument was an ad. hom. without even trying to deconstruct my argument.
Since making this post, the racial has changed back to a slow heal that ramps up, as a by the way, for people reading. I don’t know if it was a bug fix or what, but yea.
And yes, I did quite a bit of testing with my Zandalari before making this thread. It involved A LOT of jumping off of the Great Seal to inflict health damage, (requires 2 jumps to get down to 10% health).
Prior to making this thread, she would jump up 20% health each tic like a machine. I tested this at least 50 times to make sure I wasn’t crazy. (No, you cannot track it with a damage meter, due to the lack of being in combat, and I could not figure out a way to lower my health near a target dummy in a repeatable fashion at a low level)
However, I tried it again tonight after I noticed there was a small patch, and it indeed has been “fixed” back to the slow healing. You now bounce up slowly. The first tic is about 5% of your health, then it gets a large portion (10-15%?). Then another small amount (another 5%?) then another 15%ish. Then another small amount (another 5%?) then another 15-20%?. It’s not THAT slow of a build, but it’s slow enough that if you interrupt the Zandalari early, they can only get like 5% of their health back, whereas before, they’d get 20%.
But again, I can’t track the actual numbers with details due to lack of combat, so if anyone has a 120 zandalari and can do it with like, fall damage in Orgrimmar or such with flight and those dummies or dueling, feel free.
That would be a false flag, and mods keep track of those. Do that enough and you’ll lose the ability to flag posts.
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No… You called them slow, hilariously stupid and of a low IQ. I don’t care how absurd they were being. I don’t care if they were straight up trolling. You insulted them personally for it. That by definition is ad hominem. The fact you’re trying to somehow pretend otherwise leaves me dumbfounded. Just own up to it.
I don’t need to read anything you say. There literally doesn’t exist an argument you can make to prove otherwise.
Also, please point out where I said your (please allow me to quote you in context)
was ad hominem.
I’ll wait.
Because the argument got lost a long time ago to this bias tirade and now everyone seems to be just slinging mud lol.
![:man_facepalming:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/man_facepalming.png?v=6" ":man_facepalming:")
The irony is literally palpable
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Nerf Shadowmeld first then speak to me.
If you’re not gonna’ engage with the argument, then we’re pretty done here. I literally don’t know what else to say other than that you’re triggered by words.
I’m not triggered by you. To give you some perspective. I give your insults the same thought as if some drooling child with a mental disorder came up to me and called me “dumb”.
Honestly, I’m surprised you can even string together sentences.
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You are pretty triggered. The entire premise of your argument rests on you not liking things that I say and also ignoring my arguments.
You are by definition literally triggered.