I want an actual burn build.
Pally tree only has one viable tree setup.
The options are very stale.
I would continue to give up a little more damage and the bubble to have more options for PvP talents that is actually viable and, a Dot build like it had in the PTR, and mobility, and Survability that is non-Godlike.
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There are plenty of lower mmr/cr players in the forums that have good takes. I said in another thread a couple weeks ago that I was really impressed with some of the healers in the 1200-1400 range in RSS. Legitimately good players who just hadnāt broke out yet. I have played with plenty of 1700-1800 players and helped them get 2.2 for the first time. Not because I was so amazing, but because itās clear they had bad luck with partners.
If at 1600 player wants to critique my play, thatās fine, but just do it in a manner thatās respectful. Iām not going to come out and attack someone if they are just asking questions or tossing out some ideas.
As far as rets go though, the dispel needs to be removed completely. For my hunter or mages or anyone using a magic CC, itās almost game breaking. Having an off global dispel is seriously amazing, especially from an efficiency stand point.
Whatās dumb for me as well is that I would actually be fine with ret having monster damage IF they broke it up some. When they were doing 40-50% of someoneās health in .3s, that was obviously broke. But was that over the course of a 1-2 second, thatās fine. Give them amazing sustained while wings are upā¦ but take away some of the utility. The fact a ret can dispel a trap while CDs are up with no effort. Thatās never fun.
They abandoned the ethos they had in wrath. Like recklessness caused you to take more damage or wings was dispellable or DKs using hysteria for a defensive dispel. Abilities had more risk and potentially hard counters. Now we have the opposite. Tons of melee specs and even casters that use defensives to stay more offensive. Stacking offensive abilities with defensive abilities. Itās just gone overboard.
If rets would prefer to have more utility over damage/healing, I think the good players will continue to be rewarded. That said, utility on the whole needs to be brought down some for everyone. Arms has WAY too much right now, but I donāt see them touching anything.
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Fair enough respect you even trying there is definitely a breakdown in communication between people with legitimate requests an horrid level nerfs with only taking away not giving( like another thread im currently in).
Ty for atleast trying to be reasonable even if we dont agree.
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183 comments when the only thing that needed to be said was Git Gud
Iād suggest you give it a try. That negative win/loss in 2s is pretty fire, bruh.
I can be 100 losses to 1 win and you still wont catch me crying like you about the game.
Holy crap, here i thought your issue was 2v2 or 3v3 but you are literally crying about unballanced solo shuffleā¦
184 comments all a waste of time.
If frost mage was buffed to be a ret hard counter again would you be upset abt it or would you just say āgit gudā
Why would a Ret cry? They are finally balanced. The only reason every team is playing with a Ret is because every other person who plays ever other spec needs to git gud.
Ret players are the only skilled players and everyone else are cry babies.
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āgit gudā
As accurate as the holy bible
is this the infamous ret brain Iāve been hearing so much about?
No, its sarcasm.
But people crying about Paladins is just about as old as this game.
Paladins canāt even bubble hearth in hardcore.
Can you imagine in every element of this game ur class is nerfed for just being what it is. Goof ball stuff
I am pretty sure every class in the game has been nerfed.
And the sky is blueā¦
So your point doesnāt really stand
People have cried about rogue and mage since the beginning of time, are they also unfounded?
roflmfao. Ret was god in BC. Divine Storm literally one shotted people after that bozo rework.
Divine storm did not exist in tbc. It was brand new in wotlk.
Id say based on the likes his comments are getting, a lot of people agree with him. Thereās around 15 likes on several responses. You on the other hand, nobody seems to agree with you. Except the 2 or 3 other Ret dingalings on this post.
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My bad its been a lot of years since that took place. My point still stands, Ret has been at broken levels way before this. Ret is not the trash spec you seem to think it is.
Of course a lot of people agree with him.
This forum has turned into a hate farm for Paladins and is pathetic to see people Copy Paste the same āthis is why paladin is opā post.
Then when you tell them im the jerk its just dumb.
It literally like a warrior saying āmages root me to muchā you just look dumb because yaā¦no duh right.
Oh no guys, did you know warlocks fear chain me QQā¦
See stupid right?
Iāve never implied or said it was trash once, I simply corrected you on your incorrect statement. I get a lot of flack usually because I think ret has been very strong at least once per xpac, and plenty viable to push with. The only āroughā xpac ret really had was BfA imo.