So, uh, about that Ratchet Rune:

I see that some of the new roles are sorta locked with this. I’ve got all the runes I need on my tanks, mind you, but… wow.

Took a look at those Turbocharged Shredder prices in the AH. 1g 45s Each. Need 16 of those.

23g 20 silver. +5g for the rune itself.

Seems like a rather significant barrier to entry for anyone to just starting now. Nice.

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Nah, you’ll need at least 32 Turbocharged Shredder’s :slight_smile:

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It better not be RNG.

It is, about 50% drop rate.

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How is someone not fired?

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Just go farm them? You realize the mats are incredibly easy to farm right?

I farmed all the mats myself, crafted 30 of them, and tipped the Engi the shredders I didnt use for his time.

he got 7 in return as a tip.

Stop. Being. Lazy.

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eh it’s closer to like 65% but yeah it sucks. I went mining/engineering on my shaman specifically for this quest and it still sucked

you’re probably better off buying the shredder autosalvage units in bulk and gambling on the rng, rather than buying the turbochargers outright. last I looked on my server, the units were going for less than half the price of the turbochargers, so even at a 50% success rate you’re still saving some money

on the plus side, I’m flying to ratchet right now to get my dual wield specialization rune, so I can finally put this damned grind behind me…

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It’s lazy to not want to be self-masochistic when other runes of signficantly more power are easier to get with significantly less investment than other classes?

Bold stance.

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How is farming a miniscule amount of mats for a profession being self-masochistic lol

Miniscule.

50% chance - lucky = 32 creatures. Then Ordinances. Then 28 fish oil.

Pick one.

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Is that supposed to sound like a lot or something…? That looks more like evidence for my point, not yours.

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You can buy the item itself, instead of the harvesting item, if you want it a guarantee instead of RNG + farming.

That’s what I did.

See point.

1g 45s per item.

5g for rune.

Price gouged fish oil.

New person trying to get their runes isn’t going to be able to without severely min-maxing or going engineering.

You’re not discovering anything, Blizzard just made a gold or time sink for no reason for some classes.

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1 Heavy Leather
1 Medium Leather
3 Copper Ore
3 Tin Ore
3 Wool Cloth

For a single Shredder Autosalvage Unit. And you need 16 Turbochargers, which have a non-insignificant chance to not drop, so even lowballing let’s say you can get by with 25, that’s

25 Heavy Leather
25 Medium Leather
75 Copper Ore
75 Tin Ore
75 Wool Cloth

An unreasonable amount of mats? No, but absolutely not “miniscule”, especially considering you will have to go to the auction house for at least some of the materials due to requiring both skinning and mining items. And again, a droprate that could possibly be as low as 50%, so even those 25 may not be enough

Then consider that you also have to go through the Deadmines to actually get the pattern to make the Turbochargers, certainly an out-of-the-way dungeon for Horde (which is an important factor due to Shamans having their Dual Wield Specialization locked behind this grind)

And on top of all this, remember that this is only one of three grinds, with the other two requiring high level murlocs with low drop rates that take a lot of resources to solo farm, and high level elite dark iron dwarves that realistically can’t be farmed solo by someone not already farming BFD

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I mean… perhaps it’s supposed to be? Perhaps, some things are supposed to be … dare I say it… earned?

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… Meanwhile, I can just kill some random rare in Redridge on a level 3 paladin in a group, get avenger’s shield, and pretty much chunk everything to half-health (I did this, btw).

:+1: Certainly comparable to… 15% damage without a pet.

Oh, or a better comparison. Just group with a friend, kill an NPC, and get 20% bonus stats and a 10% stat aura for your friends.

:crazy_face:

My favorite part about the ratchet “quests” is how condescending and slapped together the NPC is.

'll need some of the Venture Company’s Shredder Turbochargers They’re tightly coupled to the shredder systems, so you’ll need special equipment to salvage them.
No, I don’t have that equipment.

I’ll need some Dark Iron Ordinance. Where are you going to find Dark Iron dwarves? That’s your problem!

I’m going to need fish oil and a lot of it!

I love the totally not veiled contempt for the playerbase.

Earned is one thing, a boring rng grind that you can skip by shelling out a bunch of gold can hardly be called earning anything.

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the ordinance things from the dark iron guys was 10s each like 4 days ago and are now going for … 9s 43c each .

the auto salvage things are going for … 43 silver each and the turbochargers are going for 1g70s each so buying the outright is kinda silly.

the fish oil is now going for 5s 51c each on horde lone wolf.

so ya its cheaper now than it was a week ago by a long shot.

if they put your new role rune behind it then i agree its bad and kinda think goldsinks and rep farms are lazy in general so ill agree with you there.

i dont know . honestly i hope they have more like the warlock tank rune quest or most of the warlock rune quests in general.

not simply a gold cost or a rep/mats farm that isnt really discovering anything.

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Funnily enough, I was more okay with the Warlock Tank rune after it was removed from the raid.

Because you can actually get a group and friends to do it. Group effort, actually earned.

Basically. I’m not discovering anything, I’m just getting urinated on from the sky and told it’s rain and told to stand there until it’s over.

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53 silver and

39 silver each on Lava Lash Horde as of this morning when I bought them