Is going to be 100% optional! That’s actually cool, I guess they were listening.
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Completely optional except for unlocking double legendary and unlocking set item forging.
We also don’t know if the Broker rep grind is going to be another Venari grind for Conduits/Sockets.
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From what is found, the sockets only work in open-world content in Shadowlands not dungeons/raids.
Not talking about the Cypher and open-world “Korthia” zone gear-set.
Just like with Korthia, there are two grinds, there’s the Cypher grind equivalent to the Archivist, and then there’s a rep grind with the Brokers (Death’s Advance). We don’t currently know if the Broker rep grind is where we’re going to get our Conduits/Sockets, although to be honest we can probably reasonably guess that will be the case.
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For raid loggers you can ignore it. If you do any open world content, it’s not optional.
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Ah… so not ignorable if raid loggers want their double legendaries.
Pretty much what it sounds like. So they did listen to people who play the game like Ion, a raid logger himself. The casuals, well, here is another list of chores to do to make you feel like you are progressing, which we will most likely undermine by continuing ideas like open world mob scaling etc…
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Yup.
And while the ability to wear double legendary is account-wide, Cypher is also gating access to a quest chain that gives you a “free” legendary belt that shifts to whatever Covenant legendary power matches your current Covenant. So in some cases it may be worthwhile for you to grind out Cypher on your alts as well, otherwise you’ll be obligated to spend patch currency on crafting them (which may involve running Torghast unless your alts cap out their currency each week on M+ and raiding, which may be unlikely if it is your alt).
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Looks like he hasn’t raided in quite a while. Just FYI.
Yup. Still looks pretty and interesting.
Only time will tell on that one.
No it’s not. Good luck getting into anything without double legendaries and other features vital to your power.
You know what would actually be listening. Having no systems at all in 9.2.
It’s like being water boarded all expansion and begging it to stop. But instead of stopping they push a straw up one of your noses to help you breath better.
Good simple systems would be a welcoming change in 10.0, 9.2 needed a break.
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My Covenant legendaries suck like a new Oreck vaccuum anyway.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/cypher-of-the-first-ones-system-preview-no-player-power-for-raids-and-dungeons-325169?fbclid=IwAR3qnAKTB7Rp0HWRCBxqG95jy2m4apeTMTlMfleQl7eF-wTU4bTgkhmi6sM
Another useless gated system except now its semi-optional with some benefits.
Man these troggs really don’t get it do they lmao
10.0 won’t be different. Just accept it now.
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Systems were added because players kept demanding things to do. If you want to go back to a Warlords-like expansion where there’s nothing to do but raid & PvP, that would be fine with me but I think you’d find a lot of opposition on this forum.
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Flying alone behind cyphers will make people push to do it. They want people interacting with the new content-systems which I understand.
But Blizz saying it’s totally optional is not being totally truthful.
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Systems are a terrible answer to this tho and people have said such. Add new quest lines and new adventures, add player housing with things to collect from last expansions. A bunch of other ideas other then systems for more stuff to do.
It’s like if people waiting at the doctors office asked for stuff to do while they wait. And instead of giving them magazines and a tv they gave each person physics homework.
“I don’t want to do physics homework”
“Well you asked for something to do and we gave you something you can engage with”
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Adding new quest lines just leads to people complaining about long quest lines. See: Legion, BfA, Shadowlands.
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Gonna have to refresh my memories here cause I don’t see anyone complaining about long quest lines in shadowlands bfa or legion. I’ve seen people complaining about story direction and time gating those quest lines but never about the length of those quest lines.
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