So should warrior mains just cancel subs until phase 5?

yup, or reroll melee hunter so you can be a better warrior

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nothing is wrong with it but this isnā€™t classicā€¦ You are free to go play classic if thatā€™s what you want no one is stopping you. But Iā€™m pretty sure everyone else is playing SOD cause they didnā€™t want classic again. We didnā€™t really want retail either we like the classic world but wanted it changed up which is why SOD is the highest numbers blizz has seen in awhile.

Yeah kinda sad warriors didnā€™t get anything cool in SoD. I pray you get some fun stuff in phase 3

Iā€™m going to tell you a secret. This is not a SoD problem. Twinking back in the day, warriors were one of the worst classes to do it on. If you could gear out massively at 39 you could be strong but not crazy, but because of rage calculations and gear scaling, warrior is not great until 60.

It was well known, it was heavily documented, we had this situation happen TWICE because we did vanilla again with Era. All the things you are upset about are INNATE TO THE GAME. I really donā€™t understand how people look at SoD and think ā€œMan I should just play one class as if every phase is endgameā€ instead of ā€œMan they are testing out new stuff I should try out a bunch of things and see how they are working.ā€

Sssh let them commiserate and re roll flavor of the month so i have more people to squash at 60

I just watched Heavie of Mettle warrior videos. Heā€™s ganking healing priests and bad players caught off guard not even looking for a fight and probably donā€™t have pvp runes or spec, heā€™s playing against bad pallies (whereā€™s the hand of freedom?), those supposed 3v1 are bad players against him sabotaging each otherā€™s CC, heā€™s not fighting ANY hunters, boomkin, shadow priest or shaman, his longer cooldowns are up in each cut (trinket and aoe fear), his aoe fear actually matters because heā€™s horde fighting against alliance, he ate a full pally stun and could have easily been killed, but again bad playersā€¦

Sorry. It is you who is ignorant and youā€™ve clearly not played as a warrior. Anyone with any sense can see that those cuts are not indicative to a warrior experience.

Edit: It makes me wonder what he LEFT OUT of the video.

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If you want. You can do what ever you wantā€¦ it is your 15 dollars, chief.

People like you will look for the negetive in everything bro. Embrace the challenge and get good bro. Were not a shadow priest with a one shot what do you expect we charge in an one shot mortal strike? Would that make you happy lmao

Iā€™d say itā€™s more so let us be effective at more than just zug zug raid dps.

If we had more survival tools that allow for prolonged fights, it would be much more enjoyable.
For example Warlock. They arenā€™t bursty without setup, but Master Channeler gives them significant sustain in overworld content where it isnā€™t dispelled.
That being said, Enraged Regeneration is the best candidate to solve this, by reducing the cooldown and increasing the amount healed.

As a side, it would be nice if they gave us an aura buff to allow us to generate rage on absorbed hits, but that probably wonā€™t happen.

Yes it is :expressionless: what youā€™re saying may be true but it has been exacerbated by every class getting ridiculously OP runes except warriors.

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Yes unsub please so I could stop seeing your whiny posts. Shouldnā€™t have followed all the streamers parroting each otherā€™s tiers listsā€¦

How about slapping a 10-20% DR and -6% crit on warbringer :slight_smile:

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Yea, must feel so bad to get warbringer, possibly one of the single best PVP runes designed in this game that removes roots, makes charge work in combat, AND you can use them in any stance with intercept.

Itā€™s not a SoD problem. Itā€™s how warriors function. Adapt or perish.

Just stop. Your criticism isnā€™t even constructive, your ā€œevidenceā€ was non-existent, and you started with ad hominem insults and assumption from the beginning. As the conversation goes on, you further slip into this. Now youā€™re a mind reader using strawman fallacy stating that I want a one-shot MS when clearly I stated that all of PVP is too bursty and these insta-kills are not fun - just to try and win an argument Iā€™m not even making.

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Warriors just depend on WS too much, takes time to ramp up in damage without WS. Just give them a windfury effect of their own and everyone will be happy.

Hunters, pally and shaman have inifnite mana, why canā€™t warriors have their rage generation fixed?

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just re roll bro youre not meant to play war

yes no one likes warriors anyways

I agree. Thatā€™s why hunter should be top damage, followed by warrior.

No. Just stop.

hunters have aspect of the viper, pala have guarded by the light and shaman have shamanistic rage. On top of that they all start with 100% resources. Warriors starts at 0 and have to ramp up.