Sargeras may have had “good” intentions, but that did not make him good. Same goes for Sylvanas.
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She’s trying to free herself. Freeing everyone else is incidental.
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They really can’t go down the path of trying to redeem her simply because she was always just doing everything for her self. She enjoyed the killing and the damination she was putting everyone through. Its hard to sell redemption for someone who enjoyed burning children alive in a tree and damning their souls to the Maw.
It wouldn’t make sense anyway they try to twist it and would only end up sending a message to the player base that they really don’t have a clue what they are doing.
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Sargeras also had the threat of the voidlords he was trying to stop which is why he went down that path(not to mention the dreadlords influence).
Sylvanas only concern is herself and where her soul is being sent.
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The content and dialogue of the actual expansion itself, from main characters, side characters, and new ones all point to how monstrous and irredeemable she has become. These cutscenes do not exist in a vacuum, have people not done any of the story content related to the Maw? There would have to be a massive chasm between the quest and cinematic teams, far greater than anything seen before. People are overreacting and or catastrophizing. She won’t get a redemption arc, not even close. The disconnect would need to be gigantic.
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Oh I knew you’d reach that point in the story eventually…
I personally hope that they won’t justify her actions either, but with every Sylvanas cinematic I believe more into them actually doing it. It’s like they completely forgot about everything she did in BfA and just went through with the redemption anyway.
The problem is that if they turn out making Sylvanas “right”, it also automatically means that Tyrande is wrong for seeing freedom and justice for those that were killed by Sylvanas, and unless she kills Sylvanas anyway it’s going to turn out pretty badly for her.
There should be no “Sylvanas was right all along” especially not after those innocents she sent to the maw were already eternally tortured and obliterated…
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Massively popular character with a massive fanbase. One of the original WC3 cast. Racial leader for 15 years and former faction leader. Merchandising and marketing powerhouse. Most importantly a high profile character in a franchise where no one ever really dies.
You’re all going to be so very, very disappointed. And I’m going to enjoy every second of it.
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You clearly missed WoD and Legion and to a big part BFA
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I found it very strange to think he could wipe out half the universe and just slip into retirement.
That’s how unhinged he was, he genuinely thought the survivors of what he did would be thankful he killed half of everyone they knew.
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That someone as powerful as Thanos could end up just being ideologically naïve as a starfaring conqueror seems rather lazy…
He’s supposed to show the flaws in the argument that the needs of the many is based on. If someone really sees the few as expendable then a theoretical half the universe or all of it in the second half is always going to be sacrificed for a perceived greater good. He’s insane and thinks everyone will see it like that and be thankful for it in the end. When that predictably doesn’t happen he tries to kill them all instead and start over.
If this is true then why does his armies and his lieutenants still follow him?
This pretty clearly isn’t true at this point. All other motivations from Edge of Night and Cataclysm have been scrubbed clean, I’m not sure why people think this one is any different. “This world is a prison, and I will set us all free” isn’t some secret code for “I will set myself free, and eh everyone else can get it too”.
No, it’s code for “Everyone benefits if I get what I want.”
She also has no reason to be honest to either Bolvar or Anduin. So what she says doesn’t matter.
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Hell if I know. Did you watch the second movie? This stuff is explicitly his motivation after he finds out plan A didn’t work.
I did.
I guess the point I’m driving at is if I was Thanos, there wouldn’t be a second movie.
All the heros would be dead and galaxy would be in the palm of my hand…well kinda.
I mean I would use the gauntlet to give birth to the Chaos Gods for kicks actually.
Not that her inner thoughts are a solid state to judge, as they’re frequently retconned, but as of the last ones we’ve seen, she is genuine in her intentions on a cosmic level, not on a personal one, and the latest cinematic makes it clear that her personal feelings are getting in the way of what she sees as a greater cause.
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I haven’t trusted Sylvanas’ internal monologue since Before the Storm had her blatantly lying about her motivations at the peace meeting.
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IIRC, Tolkien wrote about Gollum and his chance to overcome corruption, but how the opportunity passed and he instead succumbed to the power of the ring. It was also noted that while his final act was good for the whole, it wasn’t a form of absolution-- he did it out of desire for the ring, not to spare Frodo of its curse.
IMO, it’s more a lesson about how, at very end, evil is self-defeating in its selfish nature.
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