Or i’ve been told so.
And it’s also only blood elf non-mana class. Tough choice, still 1-2 years on deciding for tbc class
Pretty sure mana tap and arcane torrent both interacted with energy.
Also I thought rogues get shadowstep and Mace stun in BC??
1 Like
Well, this just plain isn’t accurate.
5 Likes
nah rogues do fine
1 Like
Van Melee>Range
TBC Melee<Range
Though there is a lot more class flexibility just no longer 6+ of one class and spec anymore as you need certain buffs that only certain class/specs provide.
1 Like
Pretty sure torrent provided 10 energy per tap, up to 30.
1 Like
We have mace stun now… Shadowstep is in BC though.
And cloak of skill/cheat death
3 Likes
Shadowstep requires you to be in stealth in BC so it’s not great. Also I don’t believe you’d have shadowstep with a mace stun PvP build.
watching tier lists on youtube, all says rogues are useless in TBC PVE until later gear phases.
Maybe it’ll be different because their data from private servers and Blizzard just doing their own thing.
It’s because a lot of the fights favor ranged in TBC, so ranged will be doing more DPS than rogues. On top of that rogues offer nothing to the raid in the form of buffs. I think warglaive rogues are the top dps but I’m not completely sure.
geez. i don’t want to play caster classes or even use mana in tbc, and belf can’t be warriors =_=
It really depends on how they launch TBC. If they are going to do like patch 2.4.3 with nerfed raids, then raid composition won’t matter as much.
1 Like
Until Blizzard announces the difficulty of BC I wouldn’t even worry about which classes are better. If we get nerfed raids then the raid comps will not matter half as much as people think. If we actually get pre-nerf raids then raid comps will be more important.
That said we raided with 2-3 rogues in BC. Sure, there wasn’t as many as in Vanilla, but the raids were almost half the size. I’d worry more about how you’re going to split up your 40 man raid roster than what classes are going to be better.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think it did initially. They revamped it a lot over the course of retail, but I think it was mana specific in TBC and then they added in energy and rage when BEs got warriors.
1 Like
I don’t think it will matter as much as it does in classic. TBC isnt theorycrafted and optimized to the same degree due to the lack of top tier private servers. And like others have said, we don’t know what itemization will be like yet.
Rogues are fine in TBC. The issue is that dps among the classes are much more balanced than classic and mechanics in TBC are much more punishing for melee. Therefore, you can’t stack too much melee unlike the warrior stacking happening now. Rogues also don’t provide a ton of utility beyond one so raids aren’t going to want to bring a lot. Other classes like paladins, warlocks, and shaman are more optimal to have multiples of (at least 3). You build a melee group with 2-3 rogues and that’s it. It’s just not optimal to bring any more rogues because you have to make room to build a healer group, 2 ranged groups, and a tank group. And a rogue outside the melee group isn’t going to be that competitive.
1 Like
okay, building up a lot of prejudice against rogues. Seems like i’d have to play BM hunter in TBC to be a blood elf and not rely on mana too much
I enjoyed my rogue alt in BC above all other classes.
I had a hunter, paladin and priest otherwise, enjoyed them all. But the rogue was most fun.
Rogues will simply get energy back instead of mana, that is, 10 per stack of mana tap. Mana tap creates a stacking buff, up to 3, each time you use it. Arcane torrent consumes the stacks to restore mana/energy, on top of the silence.